Do Not Tattoo Your Head

Coopman I don €™t go out of my way to sound inflammatory it €™s just that sometimes it seems to be the only way something can be explained in a way that a young guy can get it. I save most of my writing for outside the forums and try not to overdo it but still feel the need to participate.


The best way to explain hair tattooing and even poorly planned and executed hairtransplants is this way at least in my opinion it €™s a way that most young guys might understand.

Having a hair tattoo or that poor hair transplant is like walking into a room with a pee stain on your pants. Chances are no one is going to tell you about the stain. They might glance at it a few times but they are too embarrassed for you to tell you. Now if you don €™t realize it €™s drawing lots of attention maybe it €™s not so bad. But once you come to the realization that everyone seems to be staring at the pee stain on your pant leg you now do your best to conceal it. Find a dark corner, cross your legs, etc. This is exactly how it works with bad hair transplant and even worse with head tattooing as there is just no way to conceal it. Sure those that put the pee stain there will try and convince it looks great and if you get enough guys with pee stains on their pants together it will all seem normal €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.but I €™m telling you it €™s not. And those people that were too embarrassed to tell you about the pee stain are probably telling all their friends. Maybe you are one of those guys that don't care about the pee stain and carry on with business as usual.......it's possible but not very likely.


If young guys understood this concept they wouldn €™t be so sure of themselves and convince themselves that they have performed enough research. When you have a permanent pee stain on your pant leg you tend to avoid social situations and of course that is no way to live your life and the same applies to staining your head with ink dots.


Just my opinion €¦ €¦ €¦..nobody has to agree with it and it €™s only additional information for others to consider or dismiss. Step away from the ledge and give what you are about to do some more thought is all I am saying.


And most importantly the guys with the permanent pee stain. If they can somehow have it removed they breathe a sigh of relief. You can also be sure that they are not coming back or telling others about how they had a pee stain on their pant leg. They are just happy it €™s gone and all you are left with is the group of guys who are all trying convince each other that the pee stain looks bad ass.

I've been considering SMP for the past 8 months or so. At first when I came across it online I thought it was a pretty crazy idea, I'm sure many felt the same way. The idea stuck with me though and after researching one night it lead me to the array of youtube videos about the treatment. I watched through every video I could find, and from those, I have to admit it looked awesome and the idea began to feel more and more like a viable solution for the right candidate.

After watching every youtube video I could find I still wasn't satisfied, so I continued my research through every hair loss forum/thread I could about the treatment. I've spent countless hours on the SMP dedicated forums as well as lurking around forums like this. I've seen 100's of photos and read through 100's of testimonials.

Still not satisfied with just photos/videos I set up a couple consultations with two of the major SMP providers in the NYC area. I had a chance to meet about 8 people with the treatment. I meet one person that had the treatment for over 10 years. I met 2 that had it for 3 + years and I met a few who had it recent. I also sat in on two treatment while they were taking place. 3 of the 8 people had some hair growth and used SMP to supplement it, and all the other kept their hair clean shaven.

All in all I was very impressed with what I saw in person. Out of the 8 that I saw, some looked better than others, but I think the differences had a lot to do with how they wore it and what hairlines they chose. One of the treatments had a very aggressive hairline and the whole treatment was pretty dense. I had seen photos of that person online prior to meeting up with him and had the same feelings about his treatment while viewing his photos. In person it did look better than the photos though (the blend was perfect and color was natural looking) and honestly he pulled off the look well, although I would prefer mine to be less dense with more of a subtle hairline. With the 3 that kept some hair and used SMP to create a more full look, I thought one person looked awesome and the other two looked so so. I felt like under certain lighting conditions I could see the contrast between 2d and 3d. It still looked good but to a keen eye it may be spotted. I think if anyone wants to keep some hair length and use SMP it will really depend on your particular hair loss pattern. I'd suggest going into the treatment realizing it may not work like that and prepare yourself with the idea that you may have to shave it clean for your best look.

In regards to topccat29 and some of his pervious posts. I don't think its fair to compare SMP to a pee stain. Although, if someone got a botched treatment or choose a unsuitable hairline for their face than yes, it may stand out like a pee stain and be the "elephant" in the room. That seems to be few and far between though. Since this treatment has came to market 10-15 years ago I'd guess that 50,000 + people have had it done. Out of those 50,000 plus recipients I haven't been able to find many bad testimonials online. Everyone knows the age old marketing saying.. if you like a product you'll tell one person, if you don't like a product you'll tell 10 people. If the treatment is so bad and silly looking, then where are all the unhappy customers? Surely if its such an odd procedure that stands out like a sore thumb than at least a few recipients would be vocal on hair loss forums. Its not like a botched treatment would rid them of their hair loss woes... they'd still be around lurking, looking for a new hair loss solution. I compare it to people who have tried other hair loss treatments/solutions and it seems there are a lot more of then then unhappy SMP customers. I've read countless threads of people who were unhappy taking pills, unsatisfied with hair transplants or just couldn't stand wearing a hair piece. Those individuals are still around contributing to hair loss forums sharing their experiences. Where are the SMP guys with botched jobs looking for a different hair loss solution?

Another thing I wanted to mention, topccat29's comparison of SMP to a frontal lobotomy is crazy. How can you honestly compare a tattoo to a doctor cutting out a part of your brain? Seriously man, your going off on a limb with that one. Also your countless posts about cancer is unwarranted and seems to be a scare tacit your using. People have been getting tattoos for 100's of years and there has been no correlation to cancer. Yes, ink can accumulate in your lymph nodes but that has been proven to be benign. I'll admit, after reading a few of your posts about it, I spent a good couple weeks searching online for a tattoo and cancer link and there has been none. There are plenty of studies that show tattoos are safe though. I know lots and lots of people with tattoos. They are so prevalent now a days (especially here in the states), and have been around for so long, that if there was a correlation between tattoos and cancer it would be apparent by now. Your basing that argument on pure speculation.

SMP is not a good hair loss solution for every level of hair loss. I would say if you a NW2-3 than you are a great candidate for a hair transplant. If I was a NW2 I would never shave that off to get SMP, I don't think I'd even to it if I was a NW3. If you a NW4-5 you could still get a hair transplant but you may not be too thrilled with the results. We all only have a limited amount of donor hair so hair transplants can only do so much. If your a NW6-7 than there really is no other option, its either get SMP or learn to live with hair loss. topccat29, I'm not sure what norwood you are but I could see how a tattoo may sound like a crazy idea to you if your a NW1-3. But for the guys who have reached the NW6-7 range (even a guys around NW4-5 who refuse to get a hair transplant for whatever reason), SMP really seems to be a great choice. Another thing I should mention, for me, I don't considered wearing a wig a viable hair loss solution. I tried it for a while and found a few months and found the whole thing to be very, very uncomfortable. I understand how some people like it just fine though. It suggest anyone out there to try it out, maybe you won't mind wearing one, maybe its not for you.

One important fact that I wanted to mention... SMP and the placement of dots on someone's head is more artistic and difficult than a lot of people give it credit for. I don't think its wise to just go ahead with any ol practitioner because I feel the quality of SMP varies a lot between practitioners. Its best to do your research and find a partitioner your comfortable with who has a proven track record of good treatments.

Edit: Dang... that was a long first post, I didn't expect to write that much when I first started.

Tkster if SMP works for you than that €™s great I just have a different point of view.









As far as it not causing cancer it is fairly well known that tattoo ink that is not trapped in the lower dermis travels to the lymph nodes where research has shown it builds up in the nodes itself. Yes I agree with most regular tattoo the ink stays in place and most of it doesn €™t disappear to the lymph nodes and only some of it over a very long time period.









Sometimes with consumer products most of the money can be made before anyone can conclusively tie cancer to the product. Even with that it than takes decades of additional testing to prove it along with millions of dollars that most government agencies simply are not going to spend unless a very large segment of the population has been affected.









I just listened to an interview with Dr. Anthony Samsel the other day who is an expert in Glyphosate and a lifelong advocate of consumer protection. What he uncovered about GMO products with the Glyphosate in the seed was that the manufacturer knew way back in 1981 that rats were growing tumors on their bodies from ingesting the resulting plants. But wait here is the kicker he was very limited in what he could say because the information was considered a trade secret and under penalty of law he could not disclose what he was reading. If someone wants a link to the interview just let me know. Point being this is how things work when money is being made so one needs to count on themselves and not others. If you have pesticides in your body resulting in all kinds of ailments you simply can't understand maybe it's just a trade secret and you are not suppose to know.














Yes a pee stain is very appropriate. If one could imagine having a pee stain on the pants. Just visualize it or maybe spill a drink on your crotch. Now go out and see how well you can do in a social setting. The point of the pee stain comment was that you can now actually feel what it would be like if things do not meet your expectations with SMP or HT. It €™s not something to take lightly or play around with.









What most that read forums and research in general need to understand is like many industries where you combine desperate individuals with the potential to make huge sums of money the marketing becomes all very Machiavellian. One guy says this then another says that. One guy does this then the other guy does that and it all becomes somewhat of a big game of manipulation with the desperate consumer trying to find an answer being in a very weak position and just hoping that have made the right choice. And if you end up with the permanent pee stain..........guess what..............your not going to be telling anyone nor will you be asking friends and family for help........you are alone........understand this completely.














Guys you have only a few safe options and you also need to have very realistic expectations while planning long term, make sure you understand it and if you don €™t then leave the house with that pee stain on your pants and tell me how well you can cope in social situations. Most guys can €™t do it so give it all some very long thought.














My guess is that when the guy below has a conversation with someone they don €™t always look him in the eye. He is not sure why and they don €™t tell him. They might tell their friends when they get home but they are not telling him. Once he finds out he tries to hide it as best as he can and he never tells anyone about what happened €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..never ever €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..that is the way it often works.









If you can understand the point I am trying to make here because that is the objective to make a point then you will understand how the hair loss industry often operates.

If you have decided to move forward with having you head tattooed and it €™s not what you thought it was going to be try to remain calm. The first thing is to relax take a deep breath and gather information.

Most guys go through the same process when things don €™t turn out as they had expected and it also applies to hair transplantation. It €™s not anger they feel €¦ €¦ €¦.it €™s the now what am I going to do feeling. How am I going to get out of this? They then start thinking about family gatherings like birthdays, anniversaries, barbeques, weddings, funeral, etc. It €™s normal so just reach out to other sincere patients for support or confide in a close family member.

Most importantly do not panic. Panic causes more bad decisions. You absolutely must slow down so that you can think clearly as you gather more information. Don €™t obsess about it although that would be a normal reaction. It can destroy close personal relationships so work at getting busy in life and working on a plan that makes sense long term.


Those that do come forward with bad experiences should be commended. You will be blessed by doing so. Doing good receives good it's only a matter of time.

Anyone that is considering this procedure I would suggest just taking your time. I like to tell people to take years in research because that in fact is how long it takes to find people who will give their opinion without compromising themselves. Many in the industry prefer those considering this type of procedure to make a quicker decision as that works to their advantage in my opinion.

Compromising oneself is a real issue in this industry so please stay aware. I have posted an experience in the past where I actually came off as sounding angry and anyone that knows this industry knows that they like to use that to their advantage. They even brought in a repair patient to pounce on me €¦ €¦ €¦..lol €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.To be completely honest here I laugh about my own experience in the world of hair transplantation €¦ €¦ €¦how could I not see all of this I ask myself €¦ €¦.lol €¦ €¦ €¦..live and learn and pass it on is a good motto to live by.

The experience I posted was about a female friend that kept pushing me to eat a donut and after several polite declines I was getting a little frustrated. I did start to feel like telling her to stick the donut where the sun doesn €™t shine but of course I didn €™t. What I was trying to do with the posting was to convey a point which I failed to explain in a way others could understand.

Here is the point €¦ €¦ €¦..she is a very good friend and she knows me well enough to know how I feel. She is also not native to the States and I have gone out of my way so many times to help her because she is in fact a good person also here on a scholarship for violin. What €™s even more interesting is she has bragged to me in the past (several years ago) about all these Facebook friends she has and I laugh and ask her well where are they. I €™m not one of her FB friends so how come they are not helping too. There is a lesson in that €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦online friends can sometimes be just an illusion especially in the world of hair loss forums.

Another point to the story is that I have extremely strong feelings about not eating white flour and sugar. In fact it €™s a deadly combination and for someone to ask me to compromise my beliefs does anger me €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦it €™s not something personally I can do. I can €™t compromise myself it €™s just not in me to do it so others should just respect it and not take it personally. I don't wish anyone bad and I understand people do need to make a living.

Find those in this industry that have not been compromised for advice. Doesn €™t have to be me but find those people. They are out there and sometimes it takes years to find. BTW a good majority of the industry dislikes these types of real life stories it tends to detract from their message.

I believe they are very positive and can help others. If not just pass it up and read what you want to hear. But hearing only what you want is sometimes not a good idea.