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topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
With the recent Germanwings airline crash I think you will find out the co-pilot might have been on medication that changed him in a very negative way. Many friends and family simply will not understand his brain could have very well been hijacked by the medications and one does not have control of their thoughts.

I often see many on the forums recommending those who are suffering any type of hair loss depression to consult a professional. Of course this seems like the responsible thing to do while also putting one in a position of not having to take any personal responsibility which is how many systems are set up. Refer to the professionals and this makes it a closed system which is much more profitable but not always best.


I can tell you from my own reading on the medical industry in general that the mental health industry is completely owned lock, stock and barrel by the pharmaceutical industry. Not only that but often times those same medications will rewire your brain and you will never be the same person again. Kind of like a bad hair transplant that can €™t be fixed only this time it €™s your brain.

Many in the ht industry throw around the use of medications which are used in the mental health industry very loosely because they simply do not have enough information so they tend to speak and write out of complete ignorance.

I recently read 2 very good books filled with examples of actual cases that can show you exactly what happens. For those interested I highly recommend them.

€œMad In America € (Bad Science, Bad Medicine, and the Enduring Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill) Robert Whitaker

€œAnatomy of an Epidemic € (Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America)Robert Whitaker

What €™s even more enlightening is reading the history of the industry itself. One has to say my God what was going through the minds of these so called professionals. How could any one human do this to another. Excellent information to have for yourself and your loved ones.


Research yourself and become your own professional and rely less on the advice of others. When you read enough, listen enough and observe enough you can then form your own opinion and not have it handed to you which if much safer.




 
janna

janna

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topccat29 wrote:
I often see many on the forums recommending those who are suffering any type of hair loss depression to consult a professional. Of course this seems like the responsible thing to do while also putting one in a position of not having to take any personal responsibility which is how many systems are set up. Refer to the professionals and this makes it a closed system which is much more profitable but not always best.

The above paragraph in particular is confusing to me. Can you be concise in what you're saying?

1) Who are you referring to when you say, "I often see many on the forums"

2) "Of course this seems like the responsible thing to do while also putting one in a position of not having to take any personal responsibility" Again, who isn't taking responsibility?

3) What is a "closed system" and "more profitable but not always the best" for whom is it more profitable?

Thanks!


 
bullitnut

bullitnut

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Having suffered from depression (non hairloss related ) on and off for many years I wholeheartedly disagree, I have friends who work in the mental health profession and have had family members who have been so bad they were psychotic and had to be locked up in a hospital. I can tell you first hand that if you are feeling depressed then seek professional help. Medications do work as I have seen them work and have used them too, I have also seen people who were unable to talk, eat, drink or do anything for themselves recover 100% after electric shock therapy. I agree some meds have bad side effects and the patient needs monitoring but I also think depression itself is dangerous and no amount of healthy eating or trying to be positive will help...it's all about chemical imbalances In the brain and the right meds do help. I think it's dangerous to talk like there's some sort of conspiracy theory behind this illness as people are dying day in day out and meds could prevent this. I like you Topcat and don't want to argue as your a caring guy .... most of what you say on the forums has validity and makes good sense but IMO this time your wrong, and I urge anyone who is feeling down to seek medical help.
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Sure €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦let me try to be clearer. What I am saying is one needs to research the subject just as one would with hair transplantation. From what I have seen in real life and through extensive reading doctors hand out the medications like candy when in many cases it is a very poor choice. Many people become disabled in a way and once there are on them they can €™t get off. It becomes a downhill slope. As I stated I have seen it numerous times and if one did just a modest amount of research some would find that the industry is completely corrupted.

Janna I €™m am speaking of those on the forums that speak very lightly of taking medications like it €™s no big deal and of course I €™m not going to mention names be they prospective patients or those that work in the industry.

A closed system is one in which the guidelines are set by those at the top and if anyone within the organization steps outside of those guidelines their risk of losing their license is very high. That is a closed system where those at the top decide right or wrong.


Yes seek medical advice but one has to research for themselves as there are just too many that are going to steer you down the wrong road. When substantial amounts of money can be made many simply cave into greed and do the wrong thing almost as if some dark force is driving them. Yes it is very sad but one must be careful today more then ever.

On a positive note sales in the US peaked in 2003 at $15B and have been consistently dropping down to about $6B in 2014. I think people are starting to wake up as word gets around and in starts to touch people in a personal way. Almost similar to the cholesterol issue............people are slowly starting to wake up. I know my opinion on this issue might not be popular but I stand by it. Gives others the opportunity to not go with the flow and do their own research.
 
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topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Janna I write quickly so I realize sometimes I not always clear. The point I was making about personal responsibility is maybe better understood with this example.

If a family member has cancer many will give the advice of going to the oncologist where they receive the standard treatment which often ends in needless suffering and death with life being prolonged for a few years. Maybe the better choice would have been one of the many alternative treatments that have excellent track records. In order to do to that though one must take personal responsibility for whatever happens which most will not do. Having the responsibility of someone €™s very life is more than most will take on. Much better to take responsibility by sending the person to what is considered orthodox regardless of the outcome. One then takes responsibility without taking on complete responsibility as the person was given the best they had to offer.

If we were to go back 50 years or so the best they had to offer depressed patients was lobotomy and shock therapy. Of course today is different €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦hmmmmmmm €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.I would suggest people need to research on their own first then follow up with some professionals.
 
bullitnut

bullitnut

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topccat29 wrote:
if one did just a modest amount of research some would find that the industry is completely corrupted.
Sounds a little patronizing to me, imo the real problems with addictions lie in the Benzodiazepine medications when used for a long period of time. Klonopin being the worst. These types of meds were handed out frequently in the past but things are changing and they don't seem to get used as often as main stream anti depressants....not here anyway...... these meds are used primarily for Anxiety, Insomnia, muscle spasms, agitation, pre meds etc.
Other benzo's include

Chlordiazepoxide (Librium)
* Diazepam (valium)
* Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol)
* Lorazepam (Ativan)
* Midazolam (Hypnovel, Versed)
* Alprazolam (Xanax)
* Nitrazepam
* Temazepam (Restoril)
Here in the UK these are not the preferred choice when it comes to depression and both tricyclic antidepressants and SSRI and SRNI meds are used much more often.
Drugs like

Venlaflaxine (effexor) SRNI
Sertraline SSRI
Dosulepin (tricyclic)

to name just a few seem to be more common.

I myself have used these in the past and have never become addicted, i did have slight withdrawals from the Effexor but it wasn't anything major and most don't become addicted. They can really help people who are suffering.regain some normality in their lifes.

Ill give you an example my father in law has suffered from Bipolar all his life and has been in and out of hospital many many times due to this, for the past three years he has been on a very lose dose anti depressant and has remained well and out of hospital for the first time in his adult life.

I do agree Knowledge can only benefit people and help in their overall awareness of what can help and what might not, but i still think that if someone is depressed then the best thing for them to do is to seek medical advice and it's irresponsible to suggest otherwise imo . Its a horrible illness and Doctors can and will help.
Just my opinion :T:;)






 
bullitnut

bullitnut

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topccat29 wrote:
shock therapy. Of course today is different €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦hmmmmmmm €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.I would suggest people need to research on their own first then follow up with some professionals.
I know it sounds barbaric but ECT shock therapy is an amazing treatment i have witnessed in person numerous people actually have this and seen first hand how incredible their improvements have been.
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Bullitnut you are right we are not going to agree...............and that's cool dude. If forces others to try and figure out what is best by doing their own research and not listening to any one opinion and that in my opinion is a very good thing.

Just as it is with hair transplantation. Never listen to any one opinion..............figure it out on your own by listening to them all and trying to figure it all out over time.

Good to hear things worked out for you Bullitnut. We all have different experiences. I learned at a very young age for whatever reason to not let something get me down. To actually do just the opposite and use it as a driving force to do better. Somehow I guess I just got lucky there and of course that helped me greatly with my ht experience early on.
 
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topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Bullitnut I can tell from what you have written that you have honestly been helped with a real issue as your passion comes through the post. I €™m not trying to make light of your situation or others who are in a similar position.

I am of the opinion that what has happened here in the States although it is starting to reverse course is that those in the mental health industry were needlessly giving medications to people who simply were not candidates much like hair transplantation in a way. It would not be so bad but many of these people have had their lives screwed up because of it. I don't think it is a coincidence that a few people I know, middle aged women now seem to be suffering from Fibromyalgia as a result along............there seems to be a connection along with other issues.


I have not only read about all of this but I have seen it personally as it seems to be so widespread. So yes there is some good in the mental health industry just as with HT but one does need to be careful and this is the point I was trying to make and I really need to be clearer when I post.

Money has a way of taking over industries here as everyone needs to compete with what the other guy is doing.
 
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topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
This was in today €™s Daliy Mail and it is echos the point I was trying to make. Not dismissing real depression at all but the other 70% who are needlessly taking medication because it is profitable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3024604/More-two-thirds-people-taking-antidepressants-NOT-actually-depression-Doctors-discover-not-meet-official-criteria.html
 
JoeTillman

JoeTillman

Valued member
I often see many on the forums recommending those who are suffering any type of hair loss depression to consult a professional. Of course this seems like the responsible thing to do while also putting one in a position of not having to take any personal responsibility which is how many systems are set up. Refer to the professionals and this makes it a closed system which is much more profitable but not always best.

The message here is simple. If we see someone suffering from depression we should hand them a book. If we (anyone reading this) tells someone to seek out the help of a professional we are only doing so to look like we care without taking responsibility for actually caring.
Here is just one point that this BS overlooks. How many people that you know of, that are depressed by anything, are in the mood to do "research"? How many people that you know of, that are depressed by anything, want to DO anything? It is very easy to read a book about what one should do and it is even easier to dish out advice on something that feeds into your world conglomerate conspiracy theories but your message, which is saying to NOT seek out the help of a professional is more evidence of how your lack of understanding about how the real world works is dangerous. If "one" were to take your advice and not seek the help of a professional they are more likely to cause harm to themselves or others through inaction. If they seek the help of a professional they are at least letting others know there is a problem thus they are less likely to cause harm.





 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
How many people actually want to do research with hair transplantion ? Probably none if they could get away with it. What are their chances of finding the right doctor €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦yes pretty slim and the risk very high.

The same applies to mental health. If one knows very little about the subject then it is very easy to choose poorly. Sometimes it may be as simple as starting out with Cognitive Therapy as you might be in the 70% mentioned in the article. Odds would seem to suggest this to be true.

Yes it does take a little work to research a bit when one may not be quite up to it but the risk is high without it so maybe give it some thought. Joe I €™m sure you mean well but I still think my advice makes more sense.
 
JoeTillman

JoeTillman

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We're not talking about hair restoration. We're talking about mental health. Any similarities or not are irrelevant. One does not interivew former psychiatric patients or look at before/after photos of mental health patients on websites.

Mental health is a big issue and while it is in everyone's best interest to do their research you can't just say that to someone that is already suffering from depression. I don't assume to know what your experience is with this issue but I have known several people, and personally dealt with someone that was very close to me through her ordeals. If I had told her to simply start reading to find the solution she would have wound up jumping off a bridge. She got help, and a lot of it. Much of it was useless but because it is such a broad issue no one single approach works the same for everyone so there has to be some trial and error but under controlled circumstances and in some cases controlled environments. You may think your advice makes more sense but I am learning that your "sense" does make much...sense. Do you mean well? Of course you do but sometimes you have to step back and accept the fact that sometimes, doctors really do know better. I'm sure Steve Jobs would agree with me.
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
I would disagree with you and as more people are becoming informed sales of medications have dropped off the cliff. The market revenue can only be described as being decimated from its former highs. People have come to realize the damage it causes for many who were simply not candidates to begin with and word of mouth spreads. I have encouraged people that I know personally to read a few books and it €™s like a light bulb goes on and they connect the dots so my experience is different from yours.

Kind of like hair transplantation. FUE seemed to be suppressed by the strip only clinics for many years. Eventually word of mouth spread far and wide enough that places like Turkey are where all the buzz seems to be now. They have mastered the small hand punch. The years of pitching low yield etc are pretty much over. I suppose it was good while it lasted except for the patient who did not have that as their first choice and was maybe talked into it. Yet strip is still a viable procedure for maybe a smaller segment of those who choose surgical hair restoration. Same happens with those who might need cognitive therapy if that is not what the clinic offers than they get medication. Not necessarily the best advice to maybe go somewhere that meets their needs but to simply offer what we have and convince them that this is what they need.

I should also add that when it comes to buzz never just jump in at least that is what I learned to do over the years. Just wait and watch as one needs to have enough data to draw from. Yes Turkey seems to be generating plenty of results but long term or body of work is something personally I would need before I ever moved forward. It is exactly why I waited 10 years which seems to be a long time but I am glad I did as I watched the casualties on the forums. I am trying to be a bit more detailed now that I am being monitored and thoughts come to me sometimes after I already post. I usually like to respond immediately after reading which sometimes works against me. It's always safer to go where the body of work is larger and the reputation is longer in years.


Yes severe depression which is often genetic or at least there is a genetic predisposition requiring the necessary triggers is a completely different animal and with that I would agree with you. Professional medical assistance is absolutely first and foremost. Maybe we can meet halfway and if a person is able to read maybe their case is not quite as severe and they can pursue it further and if they feel that is not possible than do what is necessary to keep oneself safe.
 
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bullitnut

bullitnut

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Depression, isn't just a case of low mood. Depression causes all sorts of different experiences for the sufferer, one being the inability to concentrate and process rational thoughts and ideas. Having suffered clinical depression and worked in the mental health industry i believe at least 90% of patients with depression would have real difficulty researching or even reading a book.

Then theres the worse still patients who have depression and problems like psychosis and bad hallucinations, these types of patients need medication and without them god knows what might happen.

If we are talking about simply low mood patients and people with say anxiety problems then yes maybe some don't need meds initially but for depression it's very difficult to get better without the proper help imo.

I know things aren't as bad as the press and a lot of stories are saying because at the hospital i worked at they wouldn't give patients addictive medications like diazepam for prolonged periods of time. They would revue their progress on these drugs twice a week in meetings with the intention of getting them off of them as soon as possible and only give them out if absolutely necessary.

I get where your coming from that research is a good thing with health issues but i just think its hard to do when you are not functioning correctly mentally.

Regarding the Germanwings pilot he was in no fit state to fly in the first place by the sounds of things and the airline should shoulder some of the blame for letting him fly imo, also probably suicidal before he even took meds.

One thing i will say though is i don't believe anyone who is clinically depressed should have a HT until they are well again incase they get subpar work and their expectations are not met.....this could make them worse. They need to be well so they can make an informed decision before surgery of any type.
 
JoeTillman

JoeTillman

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I would disagree with you and as more people are becoming informed sales of medications have dropped off the cliff. The market revenue can only be described as being decimated from its former highs. People have come to realize the damage it causes for many who were simply not candidates to begin with and word of mouth spreads. I have encouraged people that I know personally to read a few books and it €™s like a light bulb goes on and they connect the dots so my experience is different from yours.
Then you'd be wrong again. The drop in pharma revenue has to do with what is called the "patent cliff". Essentially, it means that once a product has gone off patent the pharma company loses massive revenue to generic companies which means less overall revenue for the industry as a whole since generics cost far less. More and more medications are going over the patent cliff and the pharma companies are finding it difficult to replace them with new medications and new patents that allow higher margins. It has nothing to do with people "realizing" anything. Pharma is a TRILLION dollar industry with 1.2 trillion estimated in revenue for 2016 so a few people realizing anything isn't going to make a dent.
Alternative therapies are fine but only if conventional therapies have failed. It's always nice and fuzzy to see stories of how people took matters into their own hands and "beat the odds" of whatever disease but these are fluff stories that usually have little substance. For the record, I fully believe in the potential of some alternative therapies but there are some things that demand full on medical attention before alternatives can be considered. Steve Jobs is one such victim of your school of thought as he didn't consider conventional treatments for his liver problems and he died because of it. Had he sought conventional treatments he's still be torturing his staff to this day. Anyone that is reading this should remember this point.








 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Bulitnut I agree with you and I am speaking mostly of these low mood patients who don't quite meet the level that would be considered depression.

Yes it does seem that use is up and revenue is down. Maybe those that are awaken are only people I have spoken to always good to be very precise. The main point remains the same though for those simply will low mood level...............they are probably being given poor advice same as we see with hair transplantation and that big bold lettering in the article below kind of explains the reason as it is the same.

BTW I am not a Steve Jobs fan. I like the quote but not so much the person. It's like some ht clinics in the US. I really like the work but some of the people operate their clinic the same way certainly not something I would choose.


Making Money from Addiction: 30 Million Americans On Antidepressants. Twenty Facts on America €™s Big Pharma Nightmare By Michael Snyder Global Research, September 04, 2014 End of the American Dream 2 September 2014


Has there ever been a nation more hooked on drugs than the United States? And I am not just talking about illegal drugs €“ the truth is that the number of Americans addicted to legal drugs is far greater than the number of Americans addicted to illegal drugs. As you will read about below, more than 30 million Americans are currently on antidepressants and doctors in the U.S. wrote more than 250 million prescriptions for painkillers last year. Sadly, most people got hooked on these drugs very innocently. They trusted that their doctors would never prescribe something for them that would be harmful, and they trusted that the federal government would never approve any drugs that were not safe. And once the drug companies get you hooked, they often have you for life. You see, the reality of the matter is that some of these €œlegal drugs € are actually some of the most addictive substances on the entire planet. And when they start raising the prices on those drugs, there isn €™t much that the addicts can do about it. It is a brutally efficient business model, and the pharmaceutical industry guards their territory fiercely. Very powerful people will often do some really crazy things when there are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. The following are 21 facts about America €™s endless pharmaceutical nightmare that everyone should know €¦ #1 According to the New York Times, more than 30 million Americans are currently taking antidepressants.
#2 The rate of antidepressant use among middle aged women is far higher than for the population as a whole. At this point, one out of every four women in their 40s and 50s is taking an antidepressant medication.
#3 Americans account for about five percent of the global population, but we buy more than 50 percent of the pharmaceutical drugs.
#4 Americans also consume a whopping 80 percent of all prescription painkillers.
#5 It is hard to believe, but doctors in the United States write 259 million prescriptions for painkillers each year. Prescription painkillers are some of the most addictive legal drugs, and our doctors are serving as enablers for millions up0n millions of Americans that find themselves hooked on drugs that they cannot kick.
#6 Overall, pharmaceutical drug use in America is at an all-time high. According to a study conducted by the Mayo Clinic, nearly 70 percent of all Americans are on at least one prescription drug, and 20 percent of all Americans are on at least five prescription drugs.
#7 According to the CDC, approximately 9 out of every 10 Americans that are at least 60 years old say that they have taken at least one prescription drug within the last month.
#8 In 2010, the average teen in the United States was taking 1.2 central nervous system drugs. Those are the kinds of drugs which treat conditions such as ADHD and depression.
#9 A very disturbing Government Accountability Office report found that approximately one-third of all foster children in the United States are on at least one psychiatric drug.
#10 An astounding 95 percent of the €œexperimental medicines € that the pharmaceutical industry produces are found not to be safe and are never approved. Of the remaining 5 percent that are approved, we often do not find out that they are deadly to us until decades later.
#11 One study discovered that mothers that took antidepressants during pregnancy were four times more likely to have a baby that developed an autism spectrum disorder.
#12 It has been estimated that prescription drugs kill approximately 200,000 people in the United States every single year.
#13 An American dies from an unintentional prescription drug overdose every 19 minutes. According to Dr. Sanjay Gupta, accidental prescription drug overdose is €œthe leading cause of acute preventable death for Americans €.
#14 In the United States today, prescription painkillers kill more Americans than heroin and cocaine combined.
#15 According to the CDC, approximately three quarters of a million people a year are rushed to emergency rooms in the United States because of adverse reactions to pharmaceutical drugs.
#16 The number of prescription drug overdose deaths in the United States is five times higher than it was back in 1980.
#17 A survey conducted for the National Institute on Drug Abuse found that more than 15 percent of all U.S. high school seniors abuse prescription drugs.
#18 More than 26 million women over the age of 25 say that they are €œusing prescription medications for unintended uses €œ.
#19 If all of these antidepressants are helping, then why are more Americans killing themselves? The suicide rate for Americans between the ages of 35 and 64 increased by nearly 30 percent between 1999 and 2010. The number of Americans that die by suicide is now greater than the number of Americans that die as a result of car accidents every year.
#20 Antidepressant use has been linked to mass shootings in America over and over and over again, and yet the mainstream media is eerily quiet about this. Is it because they don €™t want to threaten one of their greatest sources of advertising revenue?
#21 The amount of money that the pharmaceutical industry is raking in is astronomical. It has been reported that Americans spent more than 280 billion dollars on prescription drugs during 2013.
If many of these drugs were not so addictive, the pharmaceutical companies would make a lot less money. And pharmaceutical drug addicts often don €™t fit the profile of what we think a €œdrug addict € would look like. For example, CNN shared the story of a 55-year-old grandmother named Cynthia Scudo that become addicted to prescription painkillers €¦
For Scudo, her addiction began €” as they all do €” innocently enough.
She sought relief from hip pain, possibly caused by scarring from cesarean sections she had delivering several of her children.
Her then-husband recommended a physician.
€œThere was no physical therapy offered, € she said of the doctor €™s visit. €œThe first reaction was, let €™s give you some drugs. €
He put her on OxyContin.
By the second week, she was physically addicted.
She was popping so much of the painkiller and other drugs such as anti-anxiety Valium that they equated to a dosage for three men.
There is lots and lots of money to be made from addiction. In fact, if the U.S. health care system was a totally separate nation it would actually be the 6th largest economy on the entire globe. We are talking about piles of money larger than most people would ever dare to imagine.
And with so much money floating around, it is quite easy for the pharmaceutical industry to buy the cooperation of our politicians and of the media.
Some time when you are watching television in the evening, consciously take note of how often a pharmaceutical commercial comes on.
It has gotten to the point where we are literally being inundated with these ads.
They are already making hundreds of billions of dollars, and they think that there is room for even more growth.
Will they ever be satisfied?

 
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JoeTillman

JoeTillman

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On a positive note sales in the US peaked in 2003 at $15B and have been consistently dropping down to about $6B in 2014.
In 2003 the pharmaceutical sales numbers was indeed 15 billion. In Canada. A country with a population roughly 10% of the United States and roughly 3 million fewer people than California.
Coming in to 2003, overall revenue for the pharmaceutical industry, for all of North America, was just over 200 billion meaning that the US was around 175 billion. This is a massive difference from 15 billion and yet another example showing that you don't know what you're talking about. This, from someone that is writing a book to "guide" patients.


 

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topccat29

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Why Are American Doctors Killing Themselves In Record Numbers?


Recent reports have indicated that doctors in America are killing themselves in record numbers, and also suffer from drug and alcohol abuse at a rate significantly higher than your average person. Many people will write this off as a result of long hours or the stress of the job, but it is also possible that many of these doctors are experiencing severe guilt for participating in a medical industry that actually does very little to help people.


According to a recent report from Dr. Pamela Wible, over 400 doctors kill themselves every year and many more show severe signs of depression. This report reconfirms information that was brought to light in 2005 when a study found that male doctors killed themselves at a rate 70% higher than the average professional, with female doctors ranging from 250% to 400% higher than the average professional.


This report reconfirms information that was brought to light in 2005 when a study found that male doctors killed themselves at a rate 70% higher than the average professional, with female doctors ranging from 250% to 400% higher than the average professional.
Doctors also suffer from substance abuse at a rate much higher than the average person. According to government statistics, roughly 9% of Americans suffer from alcoholism while about 10-15% of doctors have a problem with alcohol.


Many doctors get involved with the medical health industry with good intentions, and with hopes of being able to help people. Unfortunately, after they sink thousands of dollars and years of their lives into schooling, they become doctors and learn that although they may help people every now and then, they spend most of their days peddling big pharma drugs that don €™t actually help people. Doctors are often riddled with debt, and also face threats of malpractice lawsuits over things that are general industry problems.


Doctors in modern society are in a terrible position, and many of them soon find that they belong to a corrupt institution. Depression and substance abuse seem like it would be a natural reaction to this reality.


[align=center] [/align] John Vibes writes for True Activist and is an author, researcher and investigative journalist who takes a special interest in the counter culture and the drug war.
 
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Why Are American Doctors Killing Themselves In Record Numbers? Recent reports have indicated that doctors in America are killing themselves in record numbers, and also suffer from drug and alcohol abuse at a rate significantly higher than your average person. Many people will write this off as a result of long hours or the stress of the job, but it is also possible that many of these doctors are experiencing severe guilt for participating in a medical industry that actually does very little to help people. According to a recent report from Dr. Pamela Wible, over 400 doctors kill themselves every year and many more show severe signs of depression. This report reconfirms information that was brought to light in 2005 when a study found that male doctors killed themselves at a rate 70% higher than the average professional, with female doctors ranging from 250% to 400% higher than the average professional. This report reconfirms information that was brought to light in 2005 when a study found that male doctors killed themselves at a rate 70% higher than the average professional, with female doctors ranging from 250% to 400% higher than the average professional. Doctors also suffer from substance abuse at a rate much higher than the average person. According to government statistics, roughly 9% of Americans suffer from alcoholism while about 10-15% of doctors have a problem with alcohol. Many doctors get involved with the medical health industry with good intentions, and with hopes of being able to help people. Unfortunately, after they sink thousands of dollars and years of their lives into schooling, they become doctors and learn that although they may help people every now and then, they spend most of their days peddling big pharma drugs that don €™t actually help people. Doctors are often riddled with debt, and also face threats of malpractice lawsuits over things that are general industry problems. Doctors in modern society are in a terrible position, and many of them soon find that they belong to a corrupt institution. Depression and substance abuse seem like it would be a natural reaction to this reality. John Vibes writes for True Activist and is an author, researcher and investigative journalist who takes a special interest in the counter culture and the drug war.
I'd believe this guy. I mean, what could go wrong? He supports and defends the use of the Silk Road website which is used specifically to traffic in illegal drugs and hard core firearms internationally.


John Vibes Defends the Silk Road
 

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