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My hair transplant journey. Surgery performed at the Hair Dr Leeds UK, July 2020.

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Kelvino1987

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I have just re-read your entire thread and one thing that struck me is the emotional upheaval this has caused you and other patients who went to the same clinic. The clinic certainly has “posters” who support them at every opportunity, but I don’t think they can be defended at all.

Your results are poor, which is bad, but the fact they have damaged your donor is unforgivable.

I remember when I had my face to face consultation with Dr Arshad in 2019 that he was critical of my hairline, but the hairline I had was better thank much of the work he produces.

I really hope you get this sorted and look forward to seeing your repair.
Thanks bud. It’s certainly been hard, but it’s just a really unfortunate situation, for many of us.

After starting minoxidil again, I’m confident that the progress I was having was as a result of the minoxidil regime, and less with the HT itself, as this was when I initially started to see more progress and again when I’ve started it recently.

I’ll certainly update once my repair is done.
 
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Kelvino1987

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Hi Kelvino. Do you have a hair length in the donor area that helps your hair to look ok? I know you have done a lot of research to find a suitable doctor for this next surgery. Hopefully, you can achieve your goals with this one and move on from hair. It’s good that you think the meds are making an improvement. They are a real benefit in the fight against hair loss.
All the best for this next one.
Hi BM. When I have grown it out, you can still see it looking sparse in certain areas. I’d probably say a number 4/5 would cover it best - but I do like keeping the back and sides short, especially with the top still needing work and not dense (back and sides longer will make the top look even thinner which is why I keep them short).

Just having conversations looking for a date for a repair. I’ll update once I’ve got more info on that to share!
 
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Kelvino1987

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So I’ve just come out of my repair surgery over in Nicosia, with Dr Michalis. I’ll do a full update this week, I’m just pretty shattered so going to rest up. Really pleased with my experience with Dr Michalis and his team. Confident I’ll get a decent result - just the waiting game now until those grafts start growing.

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Bobbins

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Looks very dense - do you know what density it was implanted at?

I'm 2 months post surgery with the same surgeon - expect very quick recovery, it seems to be very common with his patients.

Good luck with your recovery and growth.
 
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Kelvino1987

Valued member
Looks very dense - do you know what density it was implanted at?

I'm 2 months post surgery with the same surgeon - expect very quick recovery, it seems to be very common with his patients.

Good luck with your recovery and growth.
Cheers Bobbins. I think it was 70/70 in the hairline and 50/50 going back to the crown area.

He’s s top surgeon isn’t he. Have you found any early growth at 2 months?
 
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Bobbins

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Cheers Bobbins. I think it was 70/70 in the hairline and 50/50 going back to the crown area.

He’s s top surgeon isn’t he. Have you found any early growth at 2 months?
Ask me in 9 months :). No, I was very impressed with him. Early growth, hard to say really. I did retain quite a lot of implanted hair and have seen growth on the hairline. Much less in the crown, but that's to be expected l.
 
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Edsarn

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Hope you get a top result too @Bobbins. I think you make a really important point though. I have noticed some doctors promoting patient reviews that were given straight after surgery. It's nice to have a pleasant day and lunch etc, but ultimately, the results are all that matters, as that is what we all have to live with. Are you going to post your results too, Bobbins?
 
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Kelvino1987

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Full update

As most will know, I wasn’t happy with my result with the Hair Dr. Despite being offered a 2nd surgery (for the hairline only), I wasn’t confident or trusted they would achieve an optimal result, and knew I needed to be careful, particularly considering graft numbers are not infinite.

I’ve had several consultations since my first surgery, both online and in person, with; Dr Bisanga, Dr Feriduni, Dr Bicer, Dr Michalis (to name a few). On objectively assessing my donor area, my in person consultations confirmed it had been over harvested/damaged - one of the things I was concerned about, as well as agreeing the growth being poor. It was therefore really important I found a surgeon who was skilled enough to work with the donor I had left, and mitigate any further damage as much as possible.

I first came across Dr Michalis on @loui thread, whose result was fantastic, (check out his thread to see how good his result is). Following his journey. and learning more about Dr Michalis (trained by Dr Cole, his really experienced tech/assistant team, his long tenure in the industry, as well as his competitive prices), I was keen to approach the clinic for a consultation. I actually visited Cyprus on holiday a few months ago, and drove to Nicosia from Paphos to meet with Dr Michalis. Having met him and having my hair assessed, he felt confident he was able to get a result I’d be happy with but was clear about needing to be careful to harvest my donor, as it was more limited. Another important factor was Dr Michalis can do unshaven FUE. I didn’t want to go through another head shave so it was definitely a massive plus!

As @loui has said on his thread, the communication with Dr Michalis is directly with him via email, which definitely helps with getting to know him and building some rapport. We’d spent months discussing plans and eventually got myself booked in. I had so many questions and just wanted to make sure I chose the right surgeon and clinic. Dr Michalis was very patient, very helpful and was never pushy, which I really appreciated.

The estimate on the grafts was 1500-1800 for both the hairline and top/crown. Only up to 2000 could be safely harvested to due to over harvesting of my first surgery. But we said we’ll review this when the procedure is done.

The cost was €2 per graft with all expenses included; flights, 2 x nights at a hotel, and an escort/driver. It can be cheaper if you choose to pay for your flights and accommodation yourself at €1.5 per graft. I was picked up by a driver who was ready and waiting for me in a Mercedes and taken to my hotel. The hotel I stayed in was really nice and I had breakfast included.

The morning of the procedure, the driver was waiting for me on time. We went straight to the clinic, and we first started with having a COVID test, checking blood pressure. as well as taking a blood test. Once you’ve got the all clear, it’s straight in the surgery room. Christianna was the tech working that day, who is one of the experienced and established members of Dr Michalis’s team. The other experienced technician Ionna, was on leave so Dr Michalis had a more active role, working with Christianna throughout the procedure.

I firstly had my anaesthetic, which is the most painful part. Once that kicked in, Dr Michalis then started the harvesting of my grafts. Unlike my first surgery, Dr Michalis used a manual tool for the incisions. When I asked why does he use a manual tool over a drill, he said he has more control and can limit the possibility of damaging grafts. I could sense he was carefully taking his time and not rushing. The harvesting of the grafts was done in sections. Once one area was done, Christianna would then extract the grafts out. Once all the grafts were out around 12-1ish, we took a lunch break. The clinic ordered me some food which was included as part of my expenses.

Following having more anaesthesia in the recipient area, Dr Michalis, began doing the punches for the implanting of the grafts. Whilst he was doing this, Christianna was sorting through the grafts that were harvested (I’ve not got a full break down of how many doubles, triples, and singles just yet, but the full amount implanted was 1,956). Important to note, Dr Michalis confirmed I had very good and desirable hair characteristics - something I was previously told I didn’t have.

Once the punches were done, both Dr Michalis and Christianna worked together implanting the grafts, initially doing the hairline and working their way back. The ratio density was 70/70 at the front, and 50/50 behind. It took around 10-11 hours in total, from the initial tests done to the final grafts being implanted. I actually slept through a lot of it, which was recorded on my Fitbit.

Once the procedure was done, Dr Michalis sat down with me and went through the aftercare I need to follow over the coming weeks and months. I was going to fly back today, but last month I decided to book a separate hotel for another 2 nights so I could allow some more time to rest and let my grafts settle. The clinic have arranged for their driver to take me back to the airport for when I head home later this week.

Overall, my experience has been brilliant. I would 100% recommend Dr Michalis. Obviously, for the result, I need to give it time and work hard to protect my grafts, but I’ve got a good feeling about the progress that’s to come.

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Edsarn

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Interestingly, when I had my first surgery with Dr De Reys in 2013, he said exactly the same thing about manual extraction. He said it gave him so much more feel than a motorised punch. I guess the tools will have developed a lot since then, but it does make you wonder how much feel they provide. Also, I noticed my donor was much sorer after a motorised punch than a manual. I had three surgeries with a manual and two with a motorised punch.

The work looks very neat!! Looking forward to seeing your progress!
 
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Kelvino1987

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8 days post op of my repair with Dr Michalis. Most of the scabbing has come off now. The hairline looks a million times better already - I’ve attached a picture before my repair to compare. There’s obviously a shedding phase to come which I anticipate, I just hope the grafts do take and grow back.

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Bigmac

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Looks very dense - do you know what density it was implanted at?

I'm 2 months post surgery with the same surgeon - expect very quick recovery, it seems to be very common with his patients.

Good luck with your recovery and growth.

It would be great to read about your experience and see some pictures if possible.
 
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Bigmac

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Hi Kelvino. Congrats on your surgery with Dr Michalis.
Everything sounds like it went very well. Staying extra days after surgery to relax and rest up before heading home is good if you can do it. The price you paid for a doctor with his experience and skill is excellent. The work looks very good. Those 1956 grafts will hopefully get you the result you desire. Not shaving the recipient is helping to conceal the work. At 8 days post-op you look good.
Dr Michalis must be one of the few who still use manual punches for the whole surgery.
I`m pleased you`re happy with how the surgery went and the communication/aftercare.
Looking forward to following your progress.
All the best.
Bm.
 
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Kelvino1987

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Thanks BM! I’m not expecting perfection, just holding out on a result that allows me to; be able to style it more easily, not leaving the house late from the time it can take to style, able to attend social events again without my decision being determined by how my hair looks, not worry about wind or rain, not feel self conscious when having a hair cut, not feel self conscious when going swimming etc - just so many things that may seem small/irrelevant, but it would actually give me my life back, (what I initially invested for with my first procedure).

I’m anticipating the shedding phase and have a bit of anxiety around this and if I’ll get the growth back. I’ve not yet shed any transplanted hair, but have shed some native hair, which I believe may be shock loss due to the trauma of the punches to the recipient area?

Interestingly, I was comparing pictures of the same stage of post both procedures. Both around 10-12 days post procedure. I’d shed transplanted hair so much quicker after my first procedure - I remember thinking it feeling too soon. If your transplanted hair retains and doesn’t shed/sheds late, does this indicate chances of optimal growth?

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Edsarn

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I hope not, as my transplanted hair always sheds early! :)

Looking great for 10 to 12 days! I am sure you will get a very good result this time.
 
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Kelvino1987

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I hope not, as my transplanted hair always sheds early! :)

Looking great for 10 to 12 days! I am sure you will get a very good result this time.
You’ve always had great growth mate so you’re probably right!

How is yours coming along atm?
 
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Edsarn

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There is a video knocking around with Dr Bernstein, and he said shedding can start after 7 days, but that it takes much longer for others and not everyone sheds their transplanted hair.

All good thanks. My donor is looking much stronger as it grows, other than the part that was over harvested by Arshad. I think I am about 6 weeks post transplant, so have grown through the awkward donor stage. When it gets to my normal length, I think it will look the same as it did before!
 
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Bigmac

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Thanks BM! I’m not expecting perfection, just holding out on a result that allows me to; be able to style it more easily, not leaving the house late from the time it can take to style, able to attend social events again without my decision being determined by how my hair looks, not worry about wind or rain, not feel self conscious when having a hair cut, not feel self conscious when going swimming etc - just so many things that may seem small/irrelevant, but it would actually give me my life back, (what I initially invested for with my first procedure).

I’m anticipating the shedding phase and have a bit of anxiety around this and if I’ll get the growth back. I’ve not yet shed any transplanted hair, but have shed some native hair, which I believe may be shock loss due to the trauma of the punches to the recipient area?

Interestingly, I was comparing pictures of the same stage of post both procedures. Both around 10-12 days post procedure. I’d shed transplanted hair so much quicker after my first procedure - I remember thinking it feeling too soon. If your transplanted hair retains and doesn’t shed/sheds late, does this indicate chances of optimal growth?

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Everything looks normal to me. Sometimes you shed early, sometimes it can be later. Around 10-14 days is an average.
I am thinking that you will be happy once this grows out.
 
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