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hairtech
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The drill is good. As for Harris's results, I have seen good one's from him.
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Claude
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Hairtech, have you personally used this drill? In your signature you have worked for several doctors, who would you say is the best at fue? How come you have worked for so many different doctors?
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hairtech
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Claude,
I have been fortunate to have worked for several fine doctorin this field of medicine. I have been in the business since 2002.
Best in FUE? There are many. And there are many that are not.
I have been fortunate to have worked for several fine doctorin this field of medicine. I have been in the business since 2002.
Best in FUE? There are many. And there are many that are not.
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Claude
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I understand your reluctance to express your opinion freely on who you think is best for professional reasons, you being part of this field. However I asked if you have personal experince with the motorized fue device - to which there is no reply.
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hairtech
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Yes we have had experience with this particular device. And we think highly of it.
And as for recommending good FUE clinics... just to name a few... Bisanga, Mwamba, Shapiro brothers, Lazaro, Harris, and even... Cole. But there are others.
And as for recommending good FUE clinics... just to name a few... Bisanga, Mwamba, Shapiro brothers, Lazaro, Harris, and even... Cole. But there are others.
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hairtech
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oops... I meant Lorenzo... lol'''ss'';;D
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Claude
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I googled Lorenzo, he is based in Spain, has lots of results on Youtube which look fantastic. Have you worked for this doctor also?
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hairtech
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No no... I never worked for him but Dr. Ron Shapiro... my doc... speaks highly of him. And Dr. Ron was skeptical of FUE until the last 2 years... So for him to be impressed by Lorenzo means something IMO.
Hopefully I will meet Dr. Lorenzo in Boston in October for the ISHRS meeting. It is good to exchange ideas and share clinical information between clinics. There are a few clinics that try to hoard the advancements they have made.
Hopefully I will meet Dr. Lorenzo in Boston in October for the ISHRS meeting. It is good to exchange ideas and share clinical information between clinics. There are a few clinics that try to hoard the advancements they have made.
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hairtech
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This pic is a 0.8mm.
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pvtpoint2010
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What size do you see more white dot scaring start?
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hairtech
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I am sorry I did not respond to your PM Pivot. Been busy.
However in my opinion the larger the punch the increase in the chance of white dotting. However in all honesty I have seen white dotting even in 0.8mm on rare occasions.
I CAN say in all honesty that I have seen white dotting in every case that has used a larger than 1.0mm punch. These are cases that have come from other clinics that employ large punch extractions that came to use for more work and/or a repair. I measured the extraction spots. It was evident that something larger than 1.0mm had to have n=been used.
We employ a 0.8mm, 0.9mm, and a 1.0mm punch. Rarely the 1.0mm is used unsless the person has extreme splaying.
I do not know what other clinics use. I only know what we use. I hope this helps your question here and the PM. Have a good weekend Pivot.
However in my opinion the larger the punch the increase in the chance of white dotting. However in all honesty I have seen white dotting even in 0.8mm on rare occasions.
I CAN say in all honesty that I have seen white dotting in every case that has used a larger than 1.0mm punch. These are cases that have come from other clinics that employ large punch extractions that came to use for more work and/or a repair. I measured the extraction spots. It was evident that something larger than 1.0mm had to have n=been used.
We employ a 0.8mm, 0.9mm, and a 1.0mm punch. Rarely the 1.0mm is used unsless the person has extreme splaying.
I do not know what other clinics use. I only know what we use. I hope this helps your question here and the PM. Have a good weekend Pivot.
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pvtpoint2010
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thanks .......BTW ...have you any feedback on the Acell scar and FUE healing?
...BTW ...have you any feedback on the Acell scar and FUE healing?
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hairtech
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No on the Acell as of yet. We employed it at cost for our patients. Cole, Cooley, and others have stated various studies in our own industry's journals.
However, no one has a definitive answer in terms of 100% knowing either way. I asked some of these physicians above as well as our own... and in a round about way they all have said, "The jury is still out about this one Tom...".
However, no one has a definitive answer in terms of 100% knowing either way. I asked some of these physicians above as well as our own... and in a round about way they all have said, "The jury is still out about this one Tom...".
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Postings on Acell started to hit the forums back in 2007. Common sense would tell me that going on 5 years is plenty of time to produce a few photos and the line that the jury is still out is basically stringing along those that have hope with a line of horseshit. But that is the way this business works. It s a constant flow of something new to hope for as long as it keeps bringing customers into clinics.
So what did we see over the last few years. Many clinics dismissed Acell as having no benefit. But what I think happened here is that they saw others clinics that stated it seemed to be doing something. Those clinics in turn I m sure saw an uptick in business as they offered it. This forced some of those that previously dismissed it into a position to reconsider their initial assessment and do a complete 180 and now state that they now believe it does in fact work and will be offering it.
Acell will be around just long enough for the next thing that brings in more business. This is just history repeating itself.
I understand that it eliminates scarring, regenerates the donor and results in faster healing and hair growth. Is asking for a couple of pictures really that unreasonable?
So what did we see over the last few years. Many clinics dismissed Acell as having no benefit. But what I think happened here is that they saw others clinics that stated it seemed to be doing something. Those clinics in turn I m sure saw an uptick in business as they offered it. This forced some of those that previously dismissed it into a position to reconsider their initial assessment and do a complete 180 and now state that they now believe it does in fact work and will be offering it.
Acell will be around just long enough for the next thing that brings in more business. This is just history repeating itself.
I understand that it eliminates scarring, regenerates the donor and results in faster healing and hair growth. Is asking for a couple of pictures really that unreasonable?
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hairtech
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We don't sell it to make money though. We tell them up front that it is not a solid science here in hair transplants. So we offer it at our cost if they want it.
I know a couple of clinics that mark and hype it up.
We don't sell it to make money though. We tell them up front that it is not a solid science here in hair transplants. So we offer it at our cost if they want it.
I know a couple of clinics that mark and hype it up.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
My posting should not be misunderstood as I am not singling out any one clinic, just trying to make a point. If a patient wants to try something, it doesn t cost them anything and they fully understand any and all risks than I believe a person should be free to do what they want with their own body.
It s the clinics that promote it in such a way along with or without plucking and are charging a substantial fee that is complete horseshit. They use it to make themselves look unique and draw in those most desperate. I m sure if their children had terminal cancer and someone was telling them about this thing they had that might work but it might not work while they had to empty out their wallet to get it. Somehow I think that would be an issue but these are just balding guys so screw them, who cares.
I would be happy to be completely wrong here and all it would take is a couple of photos after 5 years.
If you look at history some clinics have always felt they needed to make themselves unique in some way to draw in more patients. I could give dozens of examples. I remember consulting with the Chambers Institute back in the early 80 s. You see they had this thing and to quote another one of our governors that is going to prison its golden. Their golden thing was the dovetail closure. Imagine two wavy lines that interlocked like the dovetail joint on a piece of furniture. Yes this golden thing would leave you with an invisible scar. Well I was young and dumb at the time but not that dumb. If these guys couldn t keep a straight line from stretching out how were they going to perform a procedure that technically was several times more difficult and end up with a better result. But I m sure many bought into that uniqueness for the short time it was offered or at least until the next golden thing.
How about Thomas/Elliott, their golden thing was the glue. Check it out you go there and you don t have to worry about wearing a compression bandage as you leave the clinic. Just pop on a hat and you re good to go. They are going to glue the grafts to your head and to top it off it s the janitor that is doing the gluing ¦..lol ¦ ¦.they left the part about the janitor out of their pitch.
It s the clinics that promote it in such a way along with or without plucking and are charging a substantial fee that is complete horseshit. They use it to make themselves look unique and draw in those most desperate. I m sure if their children had terminal cancer and someone was telling them about this thing they had that might work but it might not work while they had to empty out their wallet to get it. Somehow I think that would be an issue but these are just balding guys so screw them, who cares.
I would be happy to be completely wrong here and all it would take is a couple of photos after 5 years.
If you look at history some clinics have always felt they needed to make themselves unique in some way to draw in more patients. I could give dozens of examples. I remember consulting with the Chambers Institute back in the early 80 s. You see they had this thing and to quote another one of our governors that is going to prison its golden. Their golden thing was the dovetail closure. Imagine two wavy lines that interlocked like the dovetail joint on a piece of furniture. Yes this golden thing would leave you with an invisible scar. Well I was young and dumb at the time but not that dumb. If these guys couldn t keep a straight line from stretching out how were they going to perform a procedure that technically was several times more difficult and end up with a better result. But I m sure many bought into that uniqueness for the short time it was offered or at least until the next golden thing.
How about Thomas/Elliott, their golden thing was the glue. Check it out you go there and you don t have to worry about wearing a compression bandage as you leave the clinic. Just pop on a hat and you re good to go. They are going to glue the grafts to your head and to top it off it s the janitor that is doing the gluing ¦..lol ¦ ¦.they left the part about the janitor out of their pitch.
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hairtech
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The plucking and Acell we do not do. We use it for scars and to mix with the grafts. All that plucking stuff is for the birds.
All in all I agree with you.
All in all I agree with you.
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