smp ingredients

[SMP]

SMP ingredients - what are these inks made up from? surely there must be a law regulating what ingredients make up these inks. After all we are having it implanted into our bodies. Look at the Silicone breast implant scandal where they were leaking into the bloodstream.
It's a simple request, more so for the temporary ink that the body is supposed to absorb, what are we absorbing?
Any clinics care to comment?
I'm not being harsh, just wanting to know what I'll be putting into my body for health reasons.

 

[topccat29]

SMP you can search for some of the Material Safety Data Sheets on some of the inks online.

In the States it's required by law when handling potentially hazardous materials that employees have access to this information. All part of OSHA rules and regulations which serve a purpose as many have been harmed in the past. So you should be able to go into any establishment that offers tattooing and the MSDS are required to be on site........just ask to look at them.

The cosmetics industry is notorious for using substances which are harmful all due to cost/profit and since it's not regulated it really does become buyer beware. There is a rule of thumb for most that tend to pursue health and that is if you can't eat it don't put in on or in you body. Of course sometimes this is not practical so it becomes more of trying to minimize harm as much as possible.

Some people care more then others about these issues which I understand. To each their own as long as they are happy.

 

[Nicole007]

SMP wrote:

SMP ingredients - what are these inks made up from? surely there must be a law regulating what ingredients make up these inks. After all we are having it implanted into our bodies. Look at the Silicone breast implant scandal where they were leaking into the bloodstream.
It's a simple request, more so for the temporary ink that the body is supposed to absorb, what are we absorbing?
Any clinics care to comment?
I'm not being harsh, just wanting to know what I'll be putting into my body for health reasons.

Here is a very general breakdown of EU and American regulation of pigment manufacturing. This should point you at least in the direction of finding the laws, rules, etc. Hope this helps answer some of your questions. European law is stricter than US.
Pigment manufactures should be in compliance with both the United States FDA & EU government regulations governing cosmetics:MANUFACTURING
Agents Present in Permanent Cosmetic/Tattoo product but not limited to:
€¢ Coloring Agent
€¢ Preservative
€¢ Dispersion/Suspension Liquid
Coloring Agents allowed for use in Cosmetics Products
FDA: As outlined in 21 CFR 73 & 74
EU: As outlined in Directive 76/768/EEC; ANNEX IV PART I & II
EU-Resolution ResAP(2008)1
Preservative Agents allowed for use in Cosmetic Products
Preservatives are substances added to cosmetic products for the primary purpose of inhibiting microbial growth.
FDA: Not applicable
EU: As outlined in Directive 76/768/EEC, ANNEX VI PART I & II
EU-Resolution
ResAP(2008)1
Substances which should not form part of the composition of Cosmetic Products, Restrictions & Provisions
FDA: As outlined in 21 CFR, Parts 250.250 and 700.11 through 700.23):
EU: As outlined in Directive 76/768/EEC, ANNEX II; ANNEX III PART I & II
EU-Resolution
ResAP(2008)1
LABELING
FDA: As outlined in 21 CFR, parts 700 to 740
EU: As outlined in Directive 76/768/EEC, Article 6
EU-Resolution ResAP(2008)1.

 

[topccat29]

When you look at all the tattooing in general, cell phone use and Estrogens in the food system the Cancer epidemic can only go in one direction and that is to explode to the upside. When you look around at what most do about it they wear yellow wristbands or pink ribbons. Those of us in the heath awareness community look at all of this and our jaws just drop. It is a very good example of herd mentality and it becomes very difficult to wake most up until it €™s too late. Then there are only regrets.

 

[SMP]

@ Nicole, could you tell me what makes up the ink?
@ Topcat, Estrogens and other supplements in the food chain is something I'm looking into. Reason why - my 9 year old son has started puberty, what I've read so far. The most likely cause is growth hormones in meat products, this is crazy scary the things that are allowed in the food chain.

 

[topccat29]

SMP not to take the thread off topic but his diet I'm sure relied on foods that were heavily soy based which is very estrogenic. Regardless of if it's all the boxes of processed crap sitting on a shelf where a good percentage is some combination of soy, sugar and flavors or all the livestock that is fed a steady supply of soy and to top it off estrogen based hormones.

One would need to eat strictly pasture raised when consuming meat products along with fruits and vegetables to avoid soy. You can forget about chicken as it is all feed raised with soy being the base for most. Soy is very cheap, easy to grow and easy to store. Not good for the body at all but good for the wallet. Animals grow very fast on soy.

You could get into the value of some soy which has been fermented which most of those in Japan consume. That is a completely different product.

If your son was given soy based formula it's considered a very bad idea by those that actually know something about the subject.

The best book I have ever read on the subject is "The Whole Soy Story" by Kaayla T Daniel Phd, CCN. She attends some of the Weston A Price conferences if you have any in your area.

It is up to the consumer to be aware of what they put into there body and understand if it is going to cause them harm. One cannot simply rely on regulators as the system does really work towards the benefit of the consumer.

 

[topccat29]

SMP this is a good opportunity to bring up how information systems work. The ultimate would be the school system. When I was growing up in the 70 €™s we received plenty of exposure to the benefits of soybeans in fact it was very consistent. Even though soy products were not available we were being conditioned. All part of the process as those behind the scenes saw a huge money making opportunity. All one needed to do was put the infrastructure into place which would take a couple of decades but in the mean time start conditioning the young ones as this is not only the right age group to target but much easier to train then an old dog. It €™s the same principle as many that work in the hair loss industry they can easily convince the young guys but the older guys know many of them are completely full of crap with what they say and the greed they exhibit is sometimes sickening to look at and personally I find it stomach turning.


Markets like Soy are trillion dollar markets not chump change and it €™s exactly why food policy is determined by politicians and those who fund them and not really for the benefit of the actual voter. One must become informed which means turning off the TV even the Internet and actually doing some real research by reading books. These people behind the scenes are bringing in vast sums of money and they control the markets. They really could give a rat €™s ass about someone €™s health long term or that of their loved one. If someone's wife dies of Cancer well too bad I guess. Tattooing is the same. When someone injects ink particles into your head they are concerned about revenue and not someone €™s long term health that becomes their problem. Of course the money is a pittance in comparison to something like Soy but none the less it works the same way.

The most detrimental effect Soy has on young boys is that is feminizes them which is probably something most parents would not want to happen to their sons. They leave that part out of their advertisements.

 

[SMP]

Thanks Topcat I never knew Soy caused these conditions and that its so widely used in just about everything.

 

[topccat29]

SMP

Weston A Price is a good source of information and has been on top of this issue for years.

This is actually a good example of controlling information for the benefit of making money. The public is simply clueless and it's a good example of why I often say many seem to be doing it to each other for money and in the end they all end up losing as each holds back information for their own benefit.

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/

 

[Nicole007]

This is basic...
Most pigments used in manufacturing are dry colorants that are ground into a fine powder and added to a vehicle (matrix) of a relatively neutral or colorless material that acts as a binder. A colorant can be both a pigment and a dye depending on the vehicle it is used in. A soluble dye with metallic salts results in a lake (organic) pigment, other colorants are iron oxides (non-organic).
Iron oxides have various colors which are classified into three major color groups: yellow iron oxide, red colcothar and black iron oxide. The following table shows the details of the chemical ingredients of each group, being mindful that each group does not consist of a single component, but of a mixture.
Chemical nameChemical formulaYellow iron oxideFerric oxide, hydrateFeO(OH)ColcotharFerric oxideFe2O3Black iron oxideFerrous ferric oxideFe3O4 (Fe2O3/ FeO)Color tone depends on the temperature, concentration, pH, and radius of the particle when manufactured. For example; different tones of yellow can be produced from yellow iron oxide using these properties.
At present, iron oxides are the most commonly used pigment for coloring cosmetics. Various skin colors are produced by mixing these three groups of iron dioxide in different ratios.

 

[SMP]

Holy cr#p Soy is so concerning after reading the link. It's linked to all sorts of problems, Think I will start a Soy topic as not to detract from this one however knowing this about ingredients does have relevance to this thread.

 

[SMP]

Thanks Nicole for explaining the differences and the basic ingredients.

 

[SMP]

Milena posted the ingredients on another post.


Dear readers,I apologize for the late reply. We have been very busy at Beauty Medicale because of all the training courses but I will do my best to answer all your questions from now on.I read that you are interested in the composition of our pigment. First of all it is essential to know that our pigments do not contain forbidden substances listed in Directive 76/768/EEC, AnnexII, Annex IV, volumes 2 to 4 and they do not contain substances which are considered to be toxic, reprotoxic, cancerogenic or mutagenic.The pigment is composed of a powder part (iron oxide, titanium bioxide) and a liquid part (water, alcohol, isopropyl and soy glycerine). All these particles are characterized by different colors and shapes. The aim is to allow our immune system to absorb them and this is why they need to be micronized, filtered and encapsuled, resulting in small particles (15 micron). It is essential to know that the macrophages €™ dimention is 20 micron. This way the particles can be absorbed by our immune system, through a phagocytosis process, and the pigment disappears within maximum 2 years.The Tricopigmentation machine we use at Beauty Medical was developed thanks to the help of a German engineer. It is very rigid and is able to give the operator a precise result. It is necessary to use a one tip needle whose characteristics, above all the fact that the top of the needle is smooth and the rest is rough and irregular, allow the operator to release always the same amount of pigment in the derma, thus creating perfect dots.You may be interested in the reason why a patient shouldn €™t opt for permanent tricopigmentation. First of all our facial features change as time passes. Temporary Tricopigmentation allows patients to correct and modify all the details according to their variable taste. Secondly, we are convinced that it is impossible for the pigment to remain completely stable and unchanged over the years. We have run many tests and they all showed the same result: pigments change. Furthermore, the scalp skin is completely different from the skin on the rest of our body because of the massive presence of sebaceous glands which can modify the pigment. Because of these reasons we think that temporary Tricopigmentation is the best solution. Finally, as Dr. Poswal perfectly explained, it is useful to be aware of the fact that different patients can undergo Tricopigmentation (Patients with any kind of alopecia, men and women with hair thinning whose aim is to obtain more density on the scalp, patients who want to improve the result of a hair transplant). Consultation is essential because the operator can understand what the patient's desire is and whether he/she can achieve that result. Feel free to ask for futher information.Best Regards.

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[Milena Lardì]

Thank you very much for posting my answer here!