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Bigmac

Bigmac

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The private message between clinic and patient has been removed. As I mentioned in an earlier post I do not see any malicious content from the patient. He is documenting his journey for better or worse. Calling a patient a liar without presenting the facts is uncalled for.

I would suggest the clinic go back through the patient`s contact requests and send him the information asked for. At 12 months the patient has the option of a final assessment or gathering further opinions from other clinics.
 
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AdamHairDrUK

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Hi @Bigmac

I am not sure why you have disabled my account (see attached). I have had to create another account to post this. I thought this was a platform that encouraged open and honest discussion, but clearly you have an agenda here against the clinic and will not allow me to present the facts. This is my personal account and view, not the clinics or the doctors account or views, so you should not be deleting any of my messages.

The patient on this thread stated he received a message from Dr Arshad that "left him with a bad taste in his mouth, as the last thing he expected at this stage was to be bullshitted again". When I posted Dr Arshad's actual message reaching out to the patient it can clearly be seen the context of the Dr Arshad's message was to support the patient and invite him to the clinic for follow up. This patient has also made several other comments online which are not true and can be shown to be untrue.

It is very important to acknowledge that whilst the forum administration may have an agenda against the clinic, the clinic is withins its right to not tolerate patients fabricating things. This patient is reluctant to attend clinic for follow up and does not want us to contact him again, I think people can read between the lines that there is an alternative agenda here. In my opinion the clinic should not tolerate online abuse or defamatory comments, the legal ramifications of such activity can be severe from what I understand.

I hope you do not delete this message as it is not my intention to take over this thread but this transparency needs to be encouraged.

Regards
Adam


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Edsarn

Member
This patient is reluctant to attend clinic for follow up and does not want us to contact him again, I think people can read between the lines that there is an alternative agenda here.
@AdamHairDrUK - I am sorry, but can you not see why the patient might not want to attend the clinic again? I would not attend a clinic again if I'd experienced poor results (twice).

I genuinely do not see see the alternative agenda. The patient presented his results in a fair and transparent manner and is clearly very upset by the outcome.
 
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AdamHairDrUK

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@AdamHairDrUK - I am sorry, but can you not see why the patient might not want to attend the clinic again? I would not attend a clinic again if I'd experienced poor results (twice).

I genuinely do not see see the alternative agenda. The patient presented his results in a fair and transparent manner and is clearly very upset by the outcome.

I believe that a patient not wanting to attend follow up and stating they are being "bullshitted to" when the doctor has personally reached out to him to invite him to engage/support and attend for follow up suggests that there is an alternative agenda.

In terms of being upset with the result, this would be more of a reason to speak to the doctor and understand the situation - simply dismissing the clinic and abusing the doctor online is not good and should not be tolerated.

Regards
Adam
 
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gojiberry

member
This feels extremely unprofessional from theHairDr, it is quite shocking to see how they are responding to an honest review of a seemingly disappointing procedure. Sounds like a nightmare @Hemingway, i hope you manage to get this fixed elsewhere.
 
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loui

loui

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I believe that a patient not wanting to attend follow up and stating they are being "bullshitted to" when the doctor has personally reached out to him to invite him to engage/support and attend for follow up suggests that there is an alternative agenda.

In terms of being upset with the result, this would be more of a reason to speak to the doctor and understand the situation - simply dismissing the clinic and abusing the doctor online is not good and should not be tolerated.

Regards
Adam
I think you should focus more on your side of things why this patients feel the way he does and not put the blame on the patient.

Honestly if you gone through two surgeries and still, you are far from happy, why would you go back to the same clinic and even listen what they say?

We seen so many cases from you guys which have had the patients dissatisfied with the end result the past two years its silly to even go here and tell the patients what to do and what to not do.
 
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Stev11

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Having read this thread I feel slightly uncomfortable @Bigmac is allowing this forum to slag off surgeons. I wouldn't want any surgeon to be called a bullshitter or anyone to say they've been botched. I don't for one second doubt Dr Arshad has been monitoring this result and wants to help @Hemingway achieve a good result. He has undergone a top up surgery with the clinic and you have to admit this was only done to help improve the result. We all know how risky hair transplants can be and any surgeon in the world can never guarantee anything. I think you have to acknowledge Dr Arshad has reached out to discuss this in a professional environment at the clinic. I think forum moderators needs to encourage resolving issues with the clinic directly. I think every patient should attend a 12 month appointment and discuss their result directly with the surgeon who performed surgery. Too many clinics nowadays have no time for existing patients and are only keen on making money. We need a full analysis of this result as there could be some underlying factors/variables which have impacted this result which could be no fault of anyone's. I think we must always support each other positively, hair restoration surgery always has its flaws. I'd love to see @Hemingway style his hair and show his hair without it pulled back to see the improvement so far. I am also conscious he hasn't reached 12 months from his top up surgery yet and we should reserve judgement till the final result is clear
 

Stev11

member
I don't have any affiliation with the hair Dr clinic. I feel quite offended and upset about this comment. I've never had a hair transplant surgery simply considering one for years like many others on here. Been a lurker for about 3 years. I'm taking finasteride 1mg daily and the occasional topical minoxidil. I honestly thought this forum was a place for honest opinions and sharing support with other hair loss sufferers. I don't agree it is a place for negativity and I shared my opinion like many others. I feel for @Hemingway and want to show support positively only. It's mad how because I didn't side with anyone else on this thread I've been deemed as a fake account posing to be The hair Dr
 
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Norwood

Valued member
@Stev11 I can see why @gojiberry might have come to that conclusion given that you only joined today and posted glowing comments for Dr Arshad on other threads but i'm sure that's just a coincidence.

I fully agree that we should be supporting @Hemingway and I don't think any of this dialogue between the clinic and himself in a public thread is really helping anyone.
 

Stev11

member
I think my identity should not be discredited because I'm trying to be positive. I do agree private messages should not be shared oh public forums. We need to support each other because this could happen to anyone who visits any clinic and any surgeon
 
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MinajFan

member
Is the case of the failed transplant down to the surgeon/clinic, or can transplants just fail through pure bad luck?
 
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Edsarn

Member
@Bigmac - can you identify the IP address of these new accounts? It does seem a little suspicious.

One thing that I think is being forgotten by the clinic is the impact that this is having on their patient, which I firmly believe should be the priority of all medical/health professionals.

Accusing a patient of having an agenda is very poor, in my opinion and I really feel for Hemingway.
 

Stev11

member
@MinajFan I think there are too many factors that can impact whether a hair transplant is successful or not. Some of these you can control such as taking medication and minoxidil. Another is choosing a good surgeon/clinic and having realistic expectations. Its easy blaming surgeons when things go wrong but there could be factors outside of anyone's control. This is what's stopped me from having a hair transplant for years. I could do everything in my control and the surgeon/clinic can do their part but what if I still get poor growth??
 

Stev11

member
@Bigmac - can you identify the IP address of these new accounts? It does seem a little suspicious.

One thing that I think is being forgotten by the clinic is the impact that this is having on their patient, which I firmly believe should be the priority of all medical/health professionals.

Accusing a patient of having an agenda is very poor, in my opinion and I really feel for Hemingway.

@Edsarn I find it incredibly insulting that you are even suggesting this. I don't see how my opinions have caused so much controversy. I am more than happy to share my identity with the forum. I thought the whole point for this forum was to anonymously support those who have experienced hair loss. Just because I showed my support positively on this thread now you are suggesting I am a fake profile. I have absolutely nothing to hide. Have you never considered anyone else to be a fake account? Just because I didn't jump on your negative bandwagon. Pathetic. I hope there are consequences for those calling each other fake profiles on this forum and @Bigmac takes action
 
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Edsarn

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Unfortunately, I have not seen much support for Hemmingway in any of your posts. That is who I care about in all of this, having had lots of personal messages with him, so I think I have a good understanding of how he is really feeling.

Insulting me as well, by calling me pathetic. Thank you for that.
 
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MinajFan

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@MinajFan I think there are too many factors that can impact whether a hair transplant is successful or not. Some of these you can control such as taking medication and minoxidil. Another is choosing a good surgeon/clinic and having realistic expectations. Its easy blaming surgeons when things go wrong but there could be factors outside of anyone's control. This is what's stopped me from having a hair transplant for years. I could do everything in my control and the surgeon/clinic can do their part but what if I still get poor growth??
Did you have a transplant in the end then?
 
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gojiberry

member
From what I've seen based on this forum, it is a huge worry that for every hair Dr post on this forum, the vast majority seem to be poor results. The clients are always offered top ups which also seem to fail for the most part leaving the patient with no donor left to work with. The only good results i seem to see are from the hair Drs direct social media. I think questions need to be raised?
 
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Bobbins

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From what I've seen based on this forum, it is a huge worry that for every hair Dr post on this forum, the vast majority seem to be poor results. The clients are always offered top ups which also seem to fail for the most part leaving the patient with no donor left to work with. The only good results i seem to see are from the hair Drs direct social media. I think questions need to be raised?
I had what I consider an excellent result from the HairDr. I posted about it and was accused of being biased and working for the clinic. Perhaps people are dissuaded from posting and you're therefore seeing the results of an echo chamber?
 
loui

loui

Valued member
I had what I consider an excellent result from the HairDr. I posted about it and was accused of being biased and working for the clinic. Perhaps people are dissuaded from posting and you're therefore seeing the results of an echo chamber?
The main problem was your sensational comments before you even had a result yourself, which makes you very suspicious.

I told you if you look back that your result looks good in the photos you have shared and I am usually not a big fan of his work because I think hes too much of a hit or miss.
 
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