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Do Not Tattoo Your Head

topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
I noticed on another forum many do not seem to understand where the pigment goes when it disappears. Since I can't post an answer there as I guess it's just too much information and some prefer that patients don't know too much I will post it here.

I'm okay with anyone who chooses to have ink particles injected into their head as long as they have all the information. If I would have had all the information for instance with the hairlift I might not have chosen it...................but I never got that chance............this doesn't seem to be fair to the patient...............so let's get the information out there.

How anyone can knowingly inject ink pigments into a person's head and call themselves a doctor is really hard for me to understand. You are not a clinic you are a tattoo parlor.....real doctors do not do this.

I know all the tattoo guys have 4-5 stars on their threads but I'm happy with 2 ;)


Int Semin Surg Oncol. 2005; 2: 28. Published online Dec 1, 2005. doi: 10.1186/1477-7800-2-28PMCID: PMC1325237Tattoo pigment in an axillary lymph node simulating metastatic malignant melanomaCM Jack,[sup]1[/sup] A Adwani,[sup]
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[/sup][sup]1[/sup] and H Krishnan[sup]1[/sup]Author information –º Article notes –º Copyright and License information –¼Copyright © 2005 Jack et al; licensee BioMed Central Ltd.This is an Open Access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0), which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.

This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.Go to:AbstractWe report a case of axillary lymphadenopathy thirty years after a decorative tattoo clinically mimicking metastatic melanoma. The importance of relying on histological confirmation of metastatic disease before altering extent of surgery is discussed. The importance of recording presence of decorative tattoos is stressed.


Keywords: Tattoo Pigment, Lymphadenopathy, Malignant MelanomaGo to:BackgroundThe presence of lymphadenopathy requires further investigation. Often its presence is explained by a simple viral illness or trauma. Rarer causes are often made apparent by thorough history taking and examination. The need for a biopsy is controversial. We report a case where the answer may have been staring us in the face if we knew where to look. The fact that a tattoo causes lymphadenopathy is well known in the acute phase. This is thought to be due to local inflammation from the initial insult. However, to our knowledge there have been no reports of a palpable node after time delay this long.


Go to:Case reportA 54 year old man presented with a lump in the right axilla of six months duration. The lump was non tender and had not changed in size. He complained of weight loss of 5 kg over the past two months. He denied foreign travel, night sweats, recent injury, cough, or the presence of any other lumps. His past medical history was unremarkable. There was no family history of breast or bowel cancer. The lump was clinically palpable and measured 3 cm. It was firm, non tender, not attached to the skin or deep tissues and was consistent with a clinical diagnosis of axillary lymphadenopathy. The left axilla and supraclavicular fossae were normal. There was no skin lesion in the drainage area of the axilla. Examination of the breasts, chest and abdomen were unremarkable. Haematology, Biochemistry and Chest X-rays were normal. Ultrasound confirmed a benign appearing lymph node with a fatty centre. In view of the size and longstanding nature of the lymph node, an excision biopsy was performed. At surgery the node was firm, suspicious and black in colour.


On histology, the specimen of the lymph node with attached fatty tissue measured 3 × 2 × 0.8 cms. Black discolouration was present on the cut surface.


Microscopic examination of the routine haematoxylin and eosin sections of the lymph node showed preservation of architecture with follicular hyperplasia. Black carbon like pigment was seen lying within the macrophages and dispersed outside them in the sinuses. There was associated fibrosis. Multiple sections did not reveal any evidence of metastatic malignant melanoma.


Immunohistochemical staining for S 100 protein and histochemical stain (Masson's Fontana) was done to further exclude that possibility.


Retrospectively we noted the 30-year old tattoo that the patient had on his right arm.
Go to:ConclusionLymphadenopathy refers to nodes that are abnormal in size, consistency or number [1]. There are various classifications of lymphadenopathy, but a simple and clinically useful system is to classify lymphadenopathy as "generalized" if lymph nodes are enlarged in two or more non-contiguous areas or "localized" if only one area is involved. Localised lymphadenopathy of the axilla is suggestive of infections, Cat-scratch disease, Lymphoma, Breast cancer, Silicone implants, Brucellosis and Melanoma. The presence or otherwise of a tattoo may not be noted in history taking for lymphadenopathy [2]. Little information exists to suggest that a specific diagnosis can be based on node size. However, in one series of 213 adults with unexplained lymphadenopathy, no patient with a lymph node smaller than 1 cm[sup]2 [/sup]had cancer, while cancer was present in 8 percent of those with nodes from 1 cm[sup]2 [/sup]to 2.25 cm[sup]2 [/sup]in size, and in 38 percent of those with nodes larger than 2.25 cm[sup]2 [/sup][3]. In children, lymph nodes larger than 2 cm in diameter (along with an abnormal chest radiograph and the absence of ear, nose and throat symptoms) were predictive of granulomatous diseases (i.e. tuberculosis, cat-scratch disease or sarcoidosis) or cancer (predominantly lymphomas) [4].


The fact that a tattoo causes lymphadenopathy is well known in the acute phase due to local inflammation and probably resolves spontaneously. The natural history of tattoo is well documented. The tattoo ink particles may range from 2 €“400 nm and are most commonly 40 nm. They are initially found within large phagosomes in the cytoplasm of keratinocytes, phagocytic cells including fibroblasts, macrophages and mast cells. The skin layers initially appear homogenised but at one month, the basement membrane is reforming and aggregates are present within basal cells. At 2 €“3 months and at 40 years, ink particles are only found in dermal fibroblasts surrounded by a network of connective tissue that entraps and immobilises the cell. The tattoo may appear blurred with time due to ink movement into the deep dermis. Eventually the tattoo ink appears in the regional lymph nodes.
This is thought to be due to local inflammation from the initial insult. However, to our knowledge there have been no reports of a palpable node after time delay this long. The dye used in skin tattooing is carbon based.
The movement of dye through the lymph channels forms the basis of sentinel node biopsy. Complications of lymph node biopsy are reported as scaring, blood loss, infection and more rarely nerve damage and lymphoedema. The question remains whether it was necessary to biopsy this lymph node or was the presence of the tattoo enough to give reason for the enlarged node. In this instance the co factor of the weight loss meant that leaving the node would not be reasonable.


Anderson [5] and Moehrle [6] reported that tattoo pigments in Lymph nodes can mimic metastatic malignant melanoma, but do not comment on age of the decorative tattoo. Such pigmentation in patients with malignant melanoma can look metastatic and may prompt the surgeon to proceed to complete nodal dissection. Nodal dissection should be delayed till conclusive histological diagnosis is made [7].
Migration of the carbon pigment through the lymphatics is usually seen in the hilar lymph nodes draining the lungs. The main differential diagnosis in our case would be metastatic malignant melanoma. This was excluded by the careful examination of the H&E sections for tumour cells (Figure €‹(Figure1,1, €‹,2)2) and employing special stains. Immunohistochemical staining for S 100 protein is a very sensitive marker for melanoma cells and a Masson's Fontana stain helps to differentiate melanin pigment from carbon pigment.


Figure 1Lymph node with preserved architecture and the pigment. H&E



× 100 Figure 2


The dark granular carbon pigment located in the sinuses. H&E × 400Sentinel lymph node biopsy is becoming more common in Melanoma and Breast cancer. History taking and examination should include presence, site, age and colour of decorative tattoos especially in the drainage areas to the axilla. History of removal of tattoos is also important as nodes may persist for several years. Raising awareness of this problem among surgeons and pathologists treating malignant melanoma is important. Investigation of axillary Lymphadenopathy should include tattoos in the drainage areas as a probable cause.

Go to:AcknowledgementsThe authors would like to thanks Mr SR Ebbs (Consultant Surgeon) for his support and guidance.
Go to:References
  • Goroll AH, May LA, Mulley AG., Jr . Primary care medicine: office evaluation and management of the adult patient. 2. Philadelphia: Lippincott; 1987. Ferrer R. Lymphadenopathy: Differential Diagnosis and Evaluation. American Family Physician. October 15 1998. [PubMed]Pangalis GA, Vassilakopoulos TP, Boussiotis VA, Fessas P. Clinical approach to Lymphadenopathy. Semin Oncol. 1993;20:570 €“82. [PubMed]Slap GB, Brooks JS, Schwartz JS. When to perform biopsies of enlarged peripheral lymph nodes in young patients. JAMA. 1984;252:1321 €“6. doi: 10.1001/jama.252.10.1321. [PubMed] [Cross Ref]Anderson LL, Cardone JS, McCollough ML, Grabski WJ. Tattoo pigment mimicking malignant melanoma. Dermatological Surgery. 1996;22:92 €“4. doi: 10.1016/1076-0512(95)00336-3. [PubMed] [Cross Ref]Moehrle M, Blaheta HJ, Ruck P. Tattoo pigment mimics positive sentinel lymph node in melanoma. Dermatology. 2001;203:342 €“344. doi: 10.1159/000051787. [PubMed] [Cross Ref]Friedman T, Westreich M, Mozes SN, et al. Tattoo Pigment in Lymph Nodes Mimicking Metastatic Malignant Melanoma. Plast Reconstructive Surg. 2003;111:2120 €“2122. doi: 10.1097/01.PRS.0000057101.95872.A1. [PubMed] [Cross Ref]
 
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topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
What's the deal with all these 4 and 5 star threads on tattooing.....................that's a red flag and it's telling you something if you are paying attention.
 
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Coopman

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I hope they are paying attention.

Check this link out and read the female comments at the bottom of the page.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2099259/would-pay-2-000-head-tattoo-Celebrity-stylist-launches-new-technique-disguise-mens-hair-loss.html

Or do a google search on daily mail head tattoo and look for the headline "would you pay £2000 for a head tattoo.

For anyone thinking of painting their head, read and take note of the female comments.
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Thanks for the post Coopman.

I feel bad for anyone experiencing hair loss but these guys truly look ridiculous and the women are spot on with their comments. I'm sure anyone woman that looked at these guys would laugh and would not want to be seen with them which doesn't necessarily make it right because they could be good guys but it is understandable.

Don't let these bloodsuckers turn you into a clown so they can live large..............please be smarter then that...............let them share their love with their own little group.............in my opinion they are scumbags.


 
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Coopman

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Its very interesting that a couple of the people that commentes mentioned the black will turn blue over time. These people know something about tattoos they are not idiots, they also do not visit hairloss forums associated with SMP.
The girls that have commented on SMP have no axe to grind. They read online newspapers and felt compelled to give their opinion. These are ordinary girl next door individuals and what they saw looked so ridiculous they felt the need to express their views.
Credit must go to The Daily Mail though. They have posted a photo of 3 guys under quite intense lighting. If the lighting was darker the results would have looked better. But how on earth could the head painter responsible for this work ethically give them such unnatural, ridiculous hairlines. The answer of course is as Topcat has already suggested $$$.
Its a great thread you have put together here TC and there is probably a few men out there whom have been put off this procedure because of you. You will never meet nor see them, but your insight will change their lives forever.
And credit where its due to Bigmac for allowing this thread to be kept in the SMP section, every other hairloss forum would not allow such posts to be posted on their sites.
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
You know what is scary..................those were their best results.
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
I think BM has been around long enough to know how it feels to have posts deleted but more importantly what it means in the long run in the possible harm that can come to others. God bless anyone who can make money in this industry and there is nothing wrong with helping people and making a profit. The truth is anyone who has a logical argument can debate any point brought up on a forum and the reader can decide. It really is that simple.

I post plenty of nutrition advice that 99% would not agree with but I will back up whatever I post with clear evidence from actual experience and actual results over 40 years. Same goes for my HT experience. Plenty of people have posted for so long that fue scarring from beard hair is a fact €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..you don €™t hear them say that much anymore because it €™s a bogus argument along with so many other bogus arguments that have been presented over the years. The fact is some people are simply better, regardless of if it €™s skill, ethics, etc €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦the rest need to fake it somewhat in order to compete. The HT industry is filled with a lot of fakers and when one watches for long enough it becomes easier to figure out.

 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
I wrote about this Morcellator on the robotics thread a few weeks ago. Below is an article for those interested, it was in the news today. Point being it takes several years before all the negatives come out in this case about 20 years and there is always a price to pay for those that give it a try before all is known. In my opinion with pigments injected into the skin that travel quickly to the lymph system the odds of having cancer are greatly increased but only time will tell and by then for many it will be too late, this is just the way things work. When long term consequences are unknown it is the patient who assumes all the risk which is okay as long as they have all the information. I can tell you this for certain, every person I know who has had cancer and traced it back to something they did always regrets that past decision 100% of the time. It €™s all easy to ignore before the fact but once those lymph nodes say in the groin area start to enlarge 100% of the people feel a great deal of fear and hair or looking like having hair does not matter and never enters their mind as one automatically goes into survival mode. The FDA will be forced to ban the Morcellator too many people are watching but with guys that decide to try something new in the world of baldness €¦ €¦ €¦guess what you are on your own €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.no one will feel sorry for you they will in fact be laughing at you. You didn €™t die, it was your choice now just live with it.

I have to laugh at some of these ht advocates that always point out the guys that didn €™t do their research in the past. What was known in the past by those same patients was exactly the same type of information they promote like the robot , plucking, Acell, tattooing or anything else new that has no proof of either working or causing no harm. They are doing exactly what those in the past did to guys who supposedly did no research and they think they are doing good. They promote just to promote and behind that promoting is simply money so their preaching really is a load of horseshit €¦ €¦ €¦.how else can one describe it. To me personally it doesn €™t seem normal that a person would do this but to them it seems like it €™s all good.

If you observe these same people closely you will see just how much importance money has in their life €¦ €¦ €¦..sometimes through no fault of their own but just part of their conditioning process as they grew up. It is at the top of their life list and they often times have a hard time understanding others who have a list that is different.

Did these people who were harmed below have all the information in order to make an informed decision..................no...................that just assumed these doctors would have told them about any risk...................not the way it works friends. You need to take 100% responsibility for your choice and you need to take 100% responsibility for gathering the information.


Patients seek FDA ban on fibroid removal devices

By MATTHEW PERRONE 8 hours ago

7/11/14

WASHINGTON (AP) €” More than a dozen people €” including cancer patients, their family members and physicians €” called on federal health regulators on Friday to block the use of electronic surgical tools used to remove fibroids, but which can inadvertently spread cancer throughout the body.


An expert panel of Food and Drug Administration advisers heard impassioned pleas from women with cancer and family members of deceased patients who said they were unaware of the cancer risks of the popular technique for treating fibroids by grinding the tissue and removing it through a small incision in the abdomen. The devices are also frequently used in hysterectomies, or removal of the uterus, a common approach for preventing the growth of future fibroids.


Surgeons developed the technique as an alternative to traditional surgery, which requires a larger incision that often results in more bleeding and longer hospital stays.
Doctors have long acknowledged the risk of accidentally spreading undetected cancer with the electronic devices, known as power morcellators. But the FDA has convened a two-day meeting after calculating that the problem may occur more often than previously thought. The agency said in April that as many as 1 in 351 women may have undetected uterine cancer that can be disturbed by the technique. Previous estimates put the rate closer to 1 in 7,000.


"Would you permit your wife or sister to undergo a procedure that has a one in 351 chance of spreading cancer throughout the body?" Colleen Daley asked the FDA panel of obstetricians and gynecologists. Daley's sister, Patricia Marie Daley, died in 2011 of leiomyosarcoma, a uterine cancer that spread to her lungs after undergoing treatment with power morcellators.


Sarah Salem, who was diagnosed with the disease in 2012 after undergoing power morcellation, said surgeons should not be blamed for failing to detect cancers.
"But what we refuse to accept is the senseless and unethical risk that our surgeons took to allow the spread of our cancer," she said.


The FDA approved the first electronic morcellators in 1995 and about two dozen have been approved in U.S. since then. The devices were cleared through an abbreviated review process because they were deemed similar to manual surgical devices long on the market.


The panel of FDA advisers is scheduled to discuss a number of potential options for reducing the risks with the devices, including:


€” identifying patients who may be at increased risk for uterine cancer
€” adding new warnings to the morcellators' labeling about cancer spread
€” using protective bags to collect uterine tissue so it doesn't spread into the abdomen.
€” requirements for increased safety testing of the devices


Fibroids are non-cancerous growths in the uterus that can cause severe pain, heavy bleeding, and bladder and bowel dysfunction, mostly among women in their late 30s and 40s. It's unclear what causes the tumor-like growths €” which can grow as large as cantaloupes €” but they account for an estimated 240,000 of the 600,000 annual hysterectomies in the U.S. At least 50,000 U.S. women undergo hysterectomy using the power morcellation technique.


Hysterectomy is a key treatment because it is the only way to ensure that fibroids do not return. Myomectomy, surgery that removes fibroids while leaving the uterus intact, is recommended for women who still want to become pregnant.
 
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topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
I €™m starting to think that those that work in the industry are becoming more desperate then the balding guys. What €™s interesting is to watch the intelligence level drop as the desperation level to make another nickel rises. There seems to be an inverse relationship.

Very good observation for balding guys, don €™t let your intelligence level drop because desperation has taken hold be smarter.

Now see I would have gone with an arm tattoo that actually started with the first letter of my name. Shows more confidence €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦


Looks like a new industry low to me but that €™s just my opinion. Maybe try handing out candy.


See that..............I stuck my baby toe in.................now go ahead and dive in........
 
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topccat29

29 year HT veteran
The post below is from another forum and is preceded by a post with my own comments.

truthrocket sorry to hear about what has happened. I'm going to post some of your post to another forum to pass on the information................hope you don't mind.


I want to ask you a question.............not meant to put you down but just curious of the thought process.

When you looked at their website and you see them showcasing pinstripping on a car as part of the resume what went through your mind? Did it not raise a red flag for you?

Hope you can get whatever has been done to you fixed............good luck.




So I'm about 3 years out from the procedure and here are my thoughts in most efficient abbreviated way - so that you don't have to go through the story to get the important points.

Been meaning to do this for a while, but been busy and it's been lingering on my "to do" list for over a year.

- I'm a diffuse thinner with no bald spots

- Mark who is the owner only part of the frontal hair line. His work was good, but then he handed me off to his apprentice (Joe I think his name was) to finish. Mark claimed that he handed me off because of my swelling, but I believe it was because he wanted to finish working on his car, which he was working on when I got there - literally.

- Mark's work was good - I can't lie about that, but his apprentice's was far from satisfactory. I was not happy that I was handed off to someone who might as well have dotted my head with a sharpie. I paid 100% of the pice asked for Mark to do the job and he did about 50%. The size and shapes of the dots where noticeably different between Mark and his apprentice.

- They offered to do a touch up, but I had 2 problems with their offer. First, I don't like to fly and they knew that with me driving all the way from California to get the procedure done. Second, how do you touch up something where the problem is that there is too much of it? As in, how do you reverse the size of the dot tattooed? So for those reasons I did not and could not take their offer for a touch up. I planned on asking for a portion of my money back which I believe I did, but you can guess how that ended - no money back.

- Yes, the dots turn blue and spread over time - there's no way around that. I don't know if there are any "new" inks they use, but when I brought up this concern then - I was met with the same "we have a new formula now" routine. Take that for what it's worth.

I'm not on here much but if you have any questions of if I left anything out - feel free to reply here or PM me. I will always be upfront and honest. I wish I better things to say, but unfortunately I don't.

I'm sure there are some people out there satisfied with their results, but I coming from a perspective that is around 3 years post op.

Hope this helped
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now excuse me while I go check this off my to do list.

Best,
TR

 
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HairKiller

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Giant dots, blue, completely artificial... this is one week after treatment was done.
 

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HairKiller

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BTW, this guy -I don't like his treatment to be honest, too sharp and dense- is having tons of problems in the ladies department...
 

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Coopman

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Photos can mean anything. You can be a fun kind of guy and have a lot of female friends or you may even get lucky to find a girl or already be with a girl who doesn't mind being with a guy whom has had dots painted onto his head to replicate hair.

But lets take it from a different angle and forget the females whom just lust after guys whom have had SMP on their NW6, NW7 hairlines.

How the hell do you expect an Employer to take you seriously? What the heck are your Girlfriends parents going to think of you?

You are going to become a laughing stock whether directly or indirectly (behind your back).

There are serious cognitive behavourial issues here. Vulnerable persons lives could become seriously affected here.
Some guys can laugh a joke off, but others cant. This procedure will destroy lives. How many Clinics employ a Psychologist or undertake a psychological profile to understand a persons mindset before they get their head painted?
To anybody reading this whom is considering SMP. Visit at least 5 different reputable Tattoo saloons/parlours, hand them some pictures of SMP and tell them "DONT THESE PICTURES LOOK AWESOME! CAN YOU DO THIS TO ME? WILL MY BLACK DOTS STAY BLACK FOREVER? WILL MY BLACK DOTS BECOME LARGER AS I GET OLDER?
Reputable Tattooists dont just do Tattoos to earn their bucks. They are Artists, they take enormous pride of their work. They do not want unhappy customers.
So why dont they do SMP? Ask them and specifically request that they keep a straight face when they answer you.

My friend whom is a Tattooist. Had a very interesting implication for SMP 5years+ post treatment.
When the black turns blue and the dots become larger due to aging of the skin. When you go for your colour touch up to return your blue dots to their former black glory.
Your dots which are now slightly larger are going to have more black pigmentation added. Hence your SMP which never looked natural to begin with, will now look a little bit more ridiculous.
As years go by do you just accept the fact that you have large black dots on your head. Or would it be best to keep them blue. Thats not a nice dilema.

My own view is if you are going to undergo a SMP procedure only have the temporary version. You may be pleased with the results for the first 5yrs, but the journey after that looks bleak.
 
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HairKiller

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If you were looking at the guy on the first picture from two fingers away you wouldn't be able to tell where the treatment starts... so forget about the coworkers, employers, the girlfriend's father and don't know who else... by the way, I can't count how many HT I can spot milles away... so if you like HT good for you... can you tell me how is going to be your baldness in 5 years? No? Great.

If your friend is a tattooist he has no idea of pigments. Pigmengs turn blue or green if the ink is blue or green based, if the pigment is pure black it is impossible to turn green, blue or pink. That's why a normal tattoo costs what it costs and SMP costs what it costs.

This treatment has given some lifes back and you're talking about things you have no idea about. A different thing is if you tell me, "hey I don't like shaved heads", perfect, nothing to say.

In five years those guys will look exactly the same way... thing that you can't tell about HT.
 
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HairKiller

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Horrible treatment, completely unnatural... BTW as far as it looks so odd, could you tell me where the treatment of this guy starts? I guess if its so fake it is easy to be spotted... BTW maybe he has not had the treatment done...
 

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topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Listen €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..if someone wants to tattoo their head that is their decision. I think what gives it away most often is the shine. Usually when someone has their own natural hair there is not a tremendous amount of reflection coming off the scalp. Granted even hair transplants do not address this issue if the density is not high enough. It €™s also why concealer works better as it is a matte finish.

I think if these guys in the picture below could just reduce the shine a bit it wouldn €™t look so bad I would also say they might need to go in for one of those touch ups and then they are how you say..............good to go ;)

Please keep sharing the tattoo love..............we all need more love.




 
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HairKiller

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It is funny you've had to look after this pathetic treatments done who know by who to try to refuse my arguments. Do you want me to post pictures of old HT and we have a funny time? xD

That's pretty pathetic. All we need love but you spread hate I don't really understand why. Why you can't be happy for the guy on the picture I posted? I've been two fingers away of his head been completely unable to tell what was real and what wasn't.

By the way, where the treatment of this guy starts? It looks soooooo fake that you are not able to amswer me... come on 20 years of hair replacement research? Really?
 
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HairKiller

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https://www.google.es/search?q=horrible+hair+transplant&client=ms-android-samsung&hl=es-ES&source=android-browser-suggest&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FbzPU_fBEqWm0QWnmYCICA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=640&bih=335&rlz=1Y1XIUG_esES581ES581

You see? That's what in Law we call a partial argument. It is just a phalacy. Pure shit. You use only the part of information that validates your argument not the whole truth. If I go to Google and I write down "horrible hair transplants" I will find what I'm looking for what is not necessarly the complete truth. And what is the truth? That there are good HT and horrible ones. Just like SMP.
 
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topccat29

29 year HT veteran
Hey my dad had a nice ride back in the day..........73 Bonneville.................it had what they called the 2 tone paint where the bottom half and top half of the car had 2 different colors. One shade slightly lighter...............let me tell that was a sharp looking ride............and it had some balls............it wasn't one of those all show and no go type deals..............the women really loved it..................I guess it was the sharp lines.

Peace brother............maybe start a thread and tell us about yourself and post a convincing argument for the procedure you seem to be marketing.
 
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HairKiller

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Oh really man? You've run out of arguments? After so many years of hair replacement research? I'm quite disappointed I thought you had any idea of what you were talking... damn... My sister had a Barbie too... and I don't know why when I see a HT I have some flashbacks of it... I don't know if are the plugs, the scarring, the back scars or those awesome white spots caused by FUE... women fall at their shoes... Come on bro, I make my living litigating... you have it pretty difficult with me... was your HT with Bisanga so bad you can't feel sympathy toward the others? You've not told me if the guy on the pictures has the treatment done? Maybe it is because it doesn't look blue, sharp and all that... huh genius? Cheers.
Edit: oh yes, I'm marketing SMP but you aren't marketing HT. You should be the smartest guy at class.
 
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