Do Not Tattoo Your Head

[hairhair98]

Part of me thinks you are just trolling. I have responded to nearly everything you just said, and received no responses from you... yet after a little time goes by you repeat the things i previously responded to.

So either you cant comprehend my responses, or you are trolling by repeating things i have responded to. Which is it?

If you are a troll, then good job you got me.

topccat29 wrote:

Sorry hairhair but I can €™t agree with you on the look of SMP.

How about with yourself? Can you agree with yourself? Because i didn't say i said it, i said YOU said it. You literally said it looked really good in this thread.

Yes we agree both SMP and concealer are both absolute shit.

First of all, i obviously never said that SMP was crap, so we obviously dont agree on that. Why you would write that, i have no idea.

Secondly, why on earth would you use something that you think looks like crap on your head? Your head looks fine bald, you dont need to spraypaint it. Is the problem that you dont have the right people around you to give you that advice? It's really easy... just embrace your imperfections, and stop spending money on things you think look like crap.

I mean, that was your earlier advice to someone... so maybe you just needed to hear someone say it to you.

You have guys with blue heads on your own site are you denying this?

Instead of repeating myself (for the third time) about this, i'll just link you to the last time i responded to it. Feel free to ignore it again, and repeat it next week. That does wonders for your credibility, you know.

http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_post.php?post_id=44859

The problem with guys like you is over time when the truth finally comes out and enough guys have been damaged you will be gone. Your business model will not last so the goal is to make as much as possible in a very short period of time €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.I get it

Same thing here. I've responded to this three or four times and you never answer.

Again (again), I have had the procedure performed on myself, and i receive no financial benefit from recommending it. It's the same for most of the people responding.

Do you know how ridiculous it sounds to say that we are promoting a life destroying cosmetic procedure, which we have done to ourselves, for financial gain, of which there is none?

I assume you refuse to address the illogical reasoning here because then you would have to admit that your 'dont trust anyone on SMP forums' portion of your crusade is flawed. But by not addressing it, it looks just as bad... if not worse. Catch-22.

 

[topccat29]

I didn €™t mean concealer looks like crap maybe I should have been a little clearer. I think it €™s crap having to use it but actually when very little is used it looks good and compared to injecting pigments into you head it is much safer. But for young guys I would advise avoiding it unless of course they have been the victim of bad hair transplant work then they may have no other option but to add a little concealer to the hair that they do have.

You seem to have a hard time grasping the fact that I do not like the SMP procedure for all the reasons I have stated yet you continue to try and convince me that I €™m wrong and that I do in fact like it for the reasons you have stated €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦lol €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..no young guy should have this procedure.

What you are doing is strange to me. I ask myself would I ever go onto a forum and try to convince someone to have a hair transplant €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..the fact is that I don €™t. Most of my postings in fact cast a negative light on the industry. I advise any young guy to just shave their head first and see how that goes. Maybe start working out and focusing on other areas of your life. If they insist on having a hair transplant then I try to offer what I have learned the hard way and that €™s about it. But when the subject of tattooing comes up in my book it €™s a no go. I €™m not trying to hurt your feeling I would never do that €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..I just do not like the idea of hair dots on a shaved head.

I have read and posted to the forums for what's going on 15 years now. I find it interesting to see how it all works. I have seen plenty of shit come and go over the years and this shit will be going soon.

And don't be offended by what I write it's not meant to be aggressive, just a few guys sitting around and me telling you..............c'mon you know that looks like shit..............you laugh I laugh and maybe I get you to finally agree

 

[Sparky]

HairKiller wrote:

Horrible treatment, completely unnatural... BTW as far as it looks so odd, could you tell me where the treatment of this guy starts? I guess if its so fake it is easy to be spotted... BTW maybe he has not had the treatment done...

Yeah it looks like SMP to me.

 

[hairhair98]

topccat29 wrote:

You seem to have a hard time grasping the fact that I do not like the SMP procedure for all the reasons I have stated yet you continue to try and convince me that I €™m wrong and that I do in fact like it for the reasons you have stated

Ok, chief. I would try to explain how YOU saying a quality treatment looks good isn't me trying to convince you of anything, but it's clear you are only interested in hearing yourself talk.

What you are doing is strange to me.

That's because the day they taught basic logic and reasoning in school, you apparently said "nah, i think i'll stay at home and punch boards".

 

[topccat29]

Logic tells me when 6-8 posters all of a sudden come over from a SMP forum to comment and then all suddenly disappear just as they came that something is not quite right, similar to many of the red flags we see in the ht industry.


Part of your same group brought up martial arts not myself. So yeah your guy who I would add is a good guy has been doing it for 22 years so my reply was that I have been doing it much longer and I work much harder at it. What €™s the point €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..why was it even brought up? But no harm done I made a good connection and passed on a good idea for him to use in his own training.


Short term most of the SMP work gets a fail rating in my opinion but long term all of it gets that rating. It €™s just part of the current cycle it will go away along with the guys that are promoting it. Just the way it works.............anyone one that knows the history of the hair loss industry along with many other industries understands this. You unfortunately can not grasp the concept which is just youth and inexperience.

 

[topccat29]

There is also a very subtle message there with the iron fist training that most will simply not pick up on. It takes years and years to become good at it €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦no other way around putting in the time. Most martial artists give it a try but 99% of them do not pursue it long term because the fact is it is just too hard and yet you will also find those same people put it down at some point because they were not able to continue.

It is exactly the same with FUE with a small hand punch. Does anyone here honestly believe that is easy to do, sometimes thousands of repetitions in a day punching out those tiny grafts. It €™s not and that is in fact why most gave up and just bad mouthed the procedure for so many years while giving others bad advice along the way. Only a few stuck with it because they knew it was often times better for the patient. They did not give up they got in there every day and honed their skills. I understand that and I can appreciate the work that went into being able to acquire that skill. It €™s all becoming very hard to deny at this point by many that work in the industry but how many were misguided along the way when in fact that would have been the better option?


As far as the hair tattoo I €™m not trying to insult anyone I €™m trying to get some young guy out there to think before he acts. I think for some that have short term results that are acceptable €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦long term it is an absolute time bomb no different then poorly planned hair transplants where clinics give bad advice or just give the patient what they want.

 

[Coopman]

Had a good look at the HIShairclinic website in the past few weeks and read quite a bit of info from the forum there.

As I have already said results can be impressive (who knows for how long), but im pretty sure I could spot someone whom is NW4+ who has had SMP done if I were within 100cm of them.
"Yeah right" some of you SMP fans may say. But the reason why is that I am balding, im losing my hair. My eyes can spot a combover, thinning hair, concealor usage with ease. And if you have had SMP done your fellow balding buddies are your worst enemy. They will know when your hairline has changed, they will know if your hair has become denser than it was previously.
You cant go from a NW4 to a NW1 without raising suspicions. You can blag it by saying "hey minoxidil is awesome". But its what gets said when you are not around, the whispers, the gossiping. The more media coverage SMP gets the chances of getting busted will dramatically increase too.

I had a chat with some of the guys and girls in the Admin department where I work today. I got the Hishairclinic website up and showed the results to them all. I told them a friend of mine had just had this procedure. Well the men thought the results were awesome. The girls thought the hair looked great too, I then told them that it was microdots tattooed on their heads. suddenly they could not understand why they have had this procedure done. They admitted it looks great, but they also found it very weird.
Weird! A source of amusement. How could you be so vain to do something like this to yourself! If you are in your 20s you might want a sensible, normal girlfriend at some point in your life.

You see getting busted for having SMP is similar to getting busted for concealor. To some individuals you will become a laughing stock. Your pursuit of vanity will provide great entertainment to others. I wear concealor (a very small amount) in 17 years I have never been busted and thats with 2 long term relationships with ex gfs. But the fear of getting busted scares the hell out of me. God forbid the feeling if I had a head tattoo.

Looking on the Hishairclinic website.There is a real negative attitude towards Propecia and Rogaine. Health implications are correctly noted, but hey a little bit of balance especially as you are not documenting how successful Propecia and Rogaine can be.
If you are a guy in your 20s and you want to fight SMP these drugs are your only real choice. Various hairloss websites have 10s of 1000s of people stories into how effective these drugs are. Why are you not publishing this information? Instead of being so damn negative. You will lose customers, but morally you will be on the high ground.
Most HT Clinics refuse to operate on guys in their 20s who are not taking Propecia. They are thinking of the young guys future.

Another issue is the scaremongery of Fue scarring. There are some pictures on the website, that show FUE scarring where it looks like a fue punch in excess of 1.2mm diameter has been used. Reputable Clinics only use Punches of less than 1mm diameter. Typically around 0.9mm and the scarring is no where as hideous as shown in some pictures.

Also SMP is very expensive. A young guy in their 20s may need to spend upwards of 10k (uk pounds) over a 10yr period. If they progress up the norwood scale, repeated procedures will be required. As well as regular colour touch ups the costs soon rise.

 

[topccat29]

Basically the majority in the hair loss business are very good liars with only a few honest people doing good things and if someone doesn €™t believe that well that €™s their choice. It €™s funny to watch things like Acell being promoted and then you find out that the reps selling it were laughing their asses off at the clinics that were injecting it into the heads of young guys. Then you got those that adopted robotic fue because they never put the time to become really good at the manual technique so they only had time to put it down for years including some of the forums working along side them telling everyone fue was second rate. Those same clinics were too dumb to realize they were being used to create a foot print with the robotic system and then it would be sold to any joe blow so everyone can provide something inferior to a small hand punch. Now you got some of them grasping at whatever they can get by tattooing heads. It all becomes pathetic to watch and it €™s disgraceful when you really think about it. Are we suppose to feel sorry for them because they are offering crap and well we don €™t want to offend anyone? How about maybe doing the right thing and giving young guys better advice?

 

[topccat29]

When you see doctors tattooing hair dots on their arm when can only conclude that they have lost all self respect. But no one is suppose to comment or make someone feel bad for something that is not only ridiculous but could very well cause great harm to some young guy €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..sorry but I don €™t buy into that philosophy.

Tattooing hair dots on one €™s arm says very loudly to those that it is presented to that you are an idiot and all I need to do is this hair dot on the arm thing and you will sign up. Then I will come up with my own chart of the various protocols. Maybe do a white paper on that too..................it all means zero and the only credibility it gives one is in their own mind.


The designation doctor means zero to me €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦you are either a respectable person or you are not.

 

[hairhair98]

topccat29 wrote:

Logic tells me when 6-8 posters all of a sudden come over from a SMP forum to comment and then all suddenly disappear just as they came that something is not quite right, similar to many of the red flags we see in the ht industry.

So it's suspicious when people start posting, and its suspicious if they stop posting. Right.

Leaving that aside, if you take issue with my opinion of your logic and reasoning abilities, feel free to address all the things i am basing that opinion on. You know... the things that you have constantly ignored addressing.

You unfortunately can not grasp the concept which is just youth and inexperience.

Hah. Dude i'm almost 40 years old, and have been involved with the hairloss industry for over 18 years. The fact that i am a few years short of your 'experience' does not mean that i am inexperienced.

Besides, you've had FOUR failed hair transplants, plus more to correct the failures. I had one failed transplant almost 20 years ago, and never got duped by a bad surgery again. So why do you imply that i'm more gullible/naive than you? You're the one that had a bad surgery experience and kept going back and getting duped over and over again... at least i stopped after i saw what was up. Actually, wouldn't my judgement about this procedure be more likely to be accurate than someone who has a history of misjudging such things?

I mean, why do you put yourself on a pedestal and imply that you are a better judge of these things than me and the others, when your history portrays someone that exhibits extremely bad judgement?

And I'm not saying this to make fun of the amount of surgeries you have had, but to bring balance to your constant demonization of people who express a different opinion than you here. You constantly dismiss our input as 'inexperienced' or 'predatory' while you dole out advice on this subject that you know virtually nothing about.

Again, i believe that your intent is good, but your approach is all wrong... making it detrimental to the overall goal of providing accurate information to those in search of relief. This is way more viable than you believe it is.

 

[topccat29]

Long term the hair tattoo SMP is not a viable option or for many even short term it ends up being a disaster.

My wife on occasion will comment on our wood deck. She can't understand why many of the boards are looking like crap. I have refinished it a few times by powerwashing it and resealing it but it will never look like it did on that first day.

I try to explain to her that is just the way it is as the integrity of the material is lost over time and the skin is the same way. Even if you think it looks good now which I would still not agree with, for most of the work over time as the skin loses it's integrity it will become just like the decks boards. The deck boards can be replaced the skin on your body cannot.

You worry to much about what I have to say................if your argument and result hold water people will take the same road that you have taken so don't lose too much sleep over it.

I would like to see some more dissent over at the HIS SMP forum................it becomes too cultish when the conversation is moving in one direction. Kind of like a form of programming or mind control................everyone thinking exactly the same and doing the same thing...................that's a red flag.

Anyone who uses a ht forum should really view the HIS SMP forum. Kind of get a flow for the information and how it seems to be heading in one direction. Can you see where a young guy can get caught up in the wave and make a poor decision with marketing disguised and encouragement. Just stay aware and don't fall into this trap.

Hairhair the leader of your group is the Watson guy............right?

BTW I have never had a failed hair transplant. I had poorly planned work for the long term so my advice for most is what makes sense for the long term. Anyone reading my postings would know this.

 

[topccat29]

Here is a picture of the deck I built about 10 years ago at about the halfway point. I put it up alone needing help with only one board a very large 2x10x16 €™ that was extremely heavy. The wood looked great but as you can see today a couple of boards that were severely warped need to be replaced and you get the two tone look €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦..hmmm €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦where have I seen that before. Much of the rest of the wood is starting to lose it €™s integrity €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦just the nature of things including the skin.

The after pictures I took just a few minutes ago but this is what happens as time passes.

 

[hairhair98]

topccat29 wrote:

Long term the hair tattoo SMP is not a viable option

Well, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. However there certainly isn't any evidence to support it. Pictures of a wood deck are not proof that a cosmetic treatment isn't viable long term.

The procedure is fairly new, so it will take time to get truly long term results. However, the evidence currently shows that treatments are still viable after 12 years.

I try to explain to her that is just the way it is as the integrity of the material is lost over time and the skin is the same way.

Over time the treatment fades away, at which point it can be reapplied through a touch up, left to fade out, or removed.

Even if you think it looks good now which I would still not agree with,

Your words:

your work looks really good in all honesty

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I would like to see some more dissent over at the HIS SMP forum

Then spend more time there. There is plenty of critical commentary, discussion of the negative drawbacks to SMP, and talk about how it isn't for everyone. Often people post pictures of their heads stating that they want to get it done, and the community advises them not to do so for one reason or the other.

You can claim that it's a predatory cult-like environment, based on nothing but your assumptions, but the facts show that it isn't. It's all there in black and white.

You worry to much about what I have to say................if your argument and result hold water people will take the same road that you have taken so don't lose too much sleep over it.

Oh i dont lose any sleep over it. As i said, HIS's popularity is exploding all over the globe on hardly any significant advertising. And it's not that i really worry about what you say, it's that i want to ensure no one in need of relief is mislead by bad information.

You see, i'm different than most people... i'm really more of a savior who is willing to sacrifice himself to ensure that the ignorant people of the world (anyone under 50) aren't taken advantage of. I've basically been anointed by God to say the things no one else will say so that... wait a minute... no, that's you. Oops, sorry.

BTW I have never had a failed hair transplant.

Oh ok, so you want to make a semantics argument about the word 'failed' so that you dont have to acknowledge the actual point i was making. Snore.

I could quote the extremely negative things you said about each of your surgeries, but instead i'll just restate my point to see if you will address it.

The point was that you have a history of misjudging cosmetic procedures. I had one treatment that didnt work long term and i stopped, meanwhile you kept going back over and over to get duped into doing things that would have to be repaired. Why do you imply that i am more gullible/naive than you, when you are the one that kept getting conned? Wouldn't my judgement about a cosmetic procedure be more likely to be accurate than someone who has chronically exhibited bad judgement about such things?

 

[topccat29]

Sure I will answer your question.

The day that you will need to address the issues for the decision you have made is still a ways off and this is what you fail to understand. I will be the first person to blame myself for not having the necessary information in the past but now I do make sure I have as much information as possible which allows me to give you an informed opinion about the hair dot tattoo..........SMP...................whatever name you want to call it.

I believe in giving good safe advice and tattooing the head does not fall under that banner. Yes the growth of you business model is exploding.................good for you. I did notice a picture of Ian and I assume his business partner is his wife but it doesn't matter. The 3rd person in the picture appears to be wearing a Rolex................those are the types of things I look for.................what is important in a person's life as that tells me more about the person.

 

[hairhair98]

topccat29 wrote:

The day that you will need to address the issues for the decision you have made is still a ways off and this is what you fail to understand.

Sure, there's a long term risk for nearly anything. However, in my years of research with quality SMP treatments, i've seen nothing to indicate there will be issues beyond what i have already discussed.

It's speculation either way at this point, which leads me to this:

I will be the first person to blame myself for not having the necessary information in the past but now I do make sure I have as much information as possible

Yes, but each successive time you paid for a surgical mistake you probably thought the same thing... which is pretty much my point.

Who would be more likely to give accurate speculation about a cosmetic procedure? Someone who got conned once and resisted being duped again, or someone that repeatedly got conned and duped over many years? Who is more likely to be wrong here, based on our past judgement calls?

 

[topccat29]

I learned to observe the ht industry for a very long time before I proceeded with a repair. At that point I had the opportunity to have access to more information and dozens of human connections over the years before moving forward which was simply not possible before the internet. You see that is an important point being able to have access to the information which was not possible for many of us before.

That alone was a span of 10 years. By then I knew exactly what type of procedure I wanted because it was the best in my opinion and stood the test of time and I knew who I wanted to have it performed by regardless of what it took to get there.

This hair dot procedure has not stood the test of time in my opinion and many of the results even in that short time tell me it €™s a no go. You are too sure that you will not have a two tone head in a few years or just one big blob of ink stain and that is why just watching is all one can be advised to do.

As far as cancer down the line €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.nobody worries about that until the day of reckoning and those making the money do not care about your cancer.

Of course you keep on insisting that you are right, that €™s normal until you find out one day maybe you were wrong. Most will not come forward with their blue stained head as it €™s just too embarrassing for them to have been wrong others need to understand that.


I think maybe you harbor some type of angry feelings after reading about how the lady called you the little bald boy or something like that....................so maybe you feel defensive about the whole thing................I don't know. The difference between me an you is that I would not have let that comment go but people don't make comments like that to me........it just does not happen. I think it's something that people can just pick up on they know when they can get away with it and when they can't. On the internet of course everyone can get away with it. It's also what many young guys that get joked on about their hair loss don't understand. People do it because they know they can and having hair doesn't matter they will find something else because they are imposing their strength on someone weaker.................


I understand you like it but I would not recommend young guys do this to their head. Just shave it and move on focusing on other aspects of your life.

 

[topccat29]

My take on the marketing aspect with growth coming from very little advertising is that is exactly the way it is planned. Just make it go viral on the internet mostly around those concerned with balding. Launch in major cities to give the appearance of credibility but keep it low key for the most part.

You see something like this in my opinion cannot be advertised like many other products. If those outside the balding community got wind of it they would have a field day with it. I will give you a similar example. The fat substitute olestra appealed to those that are overweight but once the main stream media and most especially the late night comedians got wind of it and descriptions such as €œanal leakage € from using the product it became dead in the water. Most would not want to be seen consuming the product nor would many food processors want to be associated with it. Those that did make it part of their recipe quickly dumped it. Same principle would apply here. Keep it low key for the most part as you do not want too many talking about it outside the target audience as it doesn €™t take much for the jokes to get started.

This is the reality of marketing and many do in fact get duped.

 

[topccat29]

Like any good company, P&G ran trials of olestra chips before nationwide release. The company received thousands of complaints. €œOne 63-year-old Indianapolis woman, € €œruined three pair of underwear and had no friends for two days after eating olestra chips."
How did Procter & Gamble miss it? Or why did they not care?
Whether it was a blind spot or deliberate, the obvious reason is that P&G executives had a huge incentive not to find any problems with the product. With hundreds of millions of dollars and two decades of time invested, and the patent window closing, the pressure to win approval must have been immense.

So why did all the food processors incorporate Olestra into their business. Plain and simple they all thought it was going to make them richer €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.plain simple greed. No different then the clinics that adopted and promoted Acell and those that have added tattooing. Of course this is just my opinion and many will disagree.

 

[hairhair98]

Coopman wrote:

I had a chat with some of the guys and girls in the Admin department where I work today. I got the Hishairclinic website up and showed the results to them all. I told them a friend of mine had just had this procedure. Well the men thought the results were awesome. The girls thought the hair looked great too, I then told them that it was microdots tattooed on their heads. suddenly they could not understand why they have had this procedure done. They admitted it looks great, but they also found it very weird.

Here's the thing about this... nearly EVERYONE who has this treatment done talks about how the first time they heard about it they thought it was crazy. Heck, the first time I heard about it I thought it was crazy. When people talk about telling others about it before they get it done, they often say their friends/family think it's crazy. This is not some big secret or previously unknown revelation or anything.

What happens is that it looks so amazing when it is done properly, that all of the 'thats crazy' talk immediately disappears. People are amazed at how much better it makes balding guys look and they no longer consider it 'crazy or weird', rather they say it was a smart decision.

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If you are in your 20s you might want a sensible, normal girlfriend at some point in your life.

There's absolutely no basis to say something like this. There are many threads on the forum of guys talking about the amount of attractive girls they get with the treatment.

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I wear concealor (a very small amount) in 17 years I have never been busted and thats with 2 long term relationships with ex gfs.

You think you haven't been busted. The whispers and gossiping behind your back that you brought up above also apply to concealers.

You see getting busted for having SMP is similar to getting busted for concealor.

Here is a great thread from HIS where many guys answer the question "have you ever been busted for having a hair tattoo?":

http://forum.hishairclinic.com/topic/5750-has-anyone-ever-been-busted-for-having-a-hair-smp-tattoo/?hl=rogaine#entry64726

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Looking on the Hishairclinic website.There is a real negative attitude towards Propecia and Rogaine. Health implications are correctly noted, but hey a little bit of balance especially as you are not documenting how successful Propecia and Rogaine can be.

First of all it seems like a double standard for you to criticize us for not balancing the discussion, while you dont do the same for TC when he rails on and on about a cancer risk... of which there is far less evidence for than the health implications with propecia.

Here is a thread specifically talking about propecia... yes, the negative health risks are brought up... but many guys give testimonies about how it really does work:

http://forum.hishairclinic.com/topic/174-propecia-finasteride/?hl=finasteride

Additionally, the aversion to using rogaine is because of the alcohol content it contains... as alcohol can cause the treatment to fade faster. Even with that in mind, here is a quote from the forum from an engineering professor who has intimate knowledge of the SMP process:

Alcohol used in Rogaine and a zillion other over the counter lotions, creams and wank aids contains a hydroxyl group. This makes any of these products ever so slightly more reactive to the monmeric pigment that is the principle agent used by HIS. As such, it will help to fade your treatment, but by a small degree (it will vary based upon the epigenetics of the individual in question). It will likely be an effect, but a small one.

Lastly, HIS has this written in the FAQ section discussing drugs and topical treatments:

There is a significant number of people who claim to have experienced benefits using one of, or a combination of these treatments. Reports include a slowing of hair loss, a complete cessation, or even the thickening and increasing density of remaining hair.

That sounds like balance to me.

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Another issue is the scaremongery of Fue scarring.

There is a lot of talk about bad scarring because a large percentage of guys who get SMP have bad scars. At the same time, there is still discussion about the benefits of FUE and some guys give positive feedback about getting it done in conjunction with SMP.

This is from the HIS FAQ section:

Hair transplant clinics around the world now offer services to the general public, and although the quality of those services can vary enormously, many clinics are highly reputable and deliver some excellent results. ... Even with more modern techniques such as FUE (Follicular Unit Extraction), scarring is still virtually guaranteed, although it is much less severe when the procedure is carried out my a skilled surgeon.

Again, that sounds like balance to me.

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A young guy in their 20s may need to spend upwards of 10k (uk pounds) over a 10yr period.

Explain how you arrived at this figure.

 

[hairhair98]

topccat29 wrote:

You are too sure that you will not have a two tone head in a few years or just one big blob of ink stain

Yes i am. Do you know why i am so sure that it wont be an issue? Because i have spent years researching it.

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Just shave it and move on focusing on other aspects of your life.

Statements like this really make me wonder how someone who speaks so intelligently one second, can say something so off the wall the next second. It's like you are two different people.

As someone who has had 4 bad surgery procedures, continues to have surgery procedures, and continues to spraypaint hair on, i really dont understand how you think 'oh just shave it off and get on with your life, it's no big deal' is appropriate input here. Anyone who has experience with hairloss knows that saying something like that is essentially worthless, and almost insulting to those looking for solutions... implying that they just need to suck it up and stop being a sissy about it.

How can you offer that as advice, when you continue to do the opposite?

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My take on the marketing aspect with growth coming from very little advertising is that is exactly the way it is planned. Just make it go viral on the internet mostly around those concerned with balding. Launch in major cities to give the appearance of credibility but keep it low key for the most part.

You and your Dr. Evil cons piracy theories, lol. You make every single thing a negative.

Yes there was not much advertising prior to a lot of their expansion in the US, but they have recently been airing television segments in the markets they have expanded into, as well as doing local news shows. Go ahead and spin it negative.

The other possibility is that HIS growing in popularity because of how well the treatment works, and because of how good of a company they are. But i know how all that positive stuff is boring to you.

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Yes the growth of you business model is exploding.................good for you.

It's not my business model.

I did notice a picture of Ian and I assume his business partner is his wife but it doesn't matter. The 3rd person in the picture appears to be wearing a Rolex................those are the types of things I look for.................what is important in a person's life as that tells me more about the person.

Yes, that is a great philosophy... take one picture and find something negative in it and then use it to paint an entire company or person as negative. /sarcasm

If you had spent any time at the forums you would have seen that when people occasionally post about issues they are having, the CEO often offers to meet with them in person to help get it resolved. He also has the treatment and performs many of the consultations. Most CEO's avoid dealing with the customers, especially when there is a problem... but that's not the case here.

Now spin it negative.