What i meant by max grafts is that i have seen HT patients talk about that this certain clinic always is trying to harvest more grafts than needed. Like why would they do that? That would be just more work for them and someone who is over harvested would most likely not do a 2nd HT.
I expect more hair loss and to norwood 6. I’m 31 and had slow hair loss since i was 21.
I have done some research and i was somehow looking for confirmation.
I know everybody has different donor hair but what would you say are max grafts for a normal donor area before it becomes overharvesting? Like 3500-4000 grafts?
I was thinking my donor was normal.
I cut my hair low at the back so maybe it looks like i have less in the pictures.
Im not on any hair loss prevention. I have tried most things but not fin as i don’t want to take that risk. I don’t see the point taking anything else if im not on fin.
Do you recommend having meeting consultation with a local doctor first?
I think one doctor should be fine.
Is there any clincs in Turkey who can document afro HT you can recommend?
Any posts from guys in here?
What do you think about Dr. Spammer?
Thank you very much for taking your time.
Some clinics, especially cheaper hair mill type ones, might over-harvest from the donor supply for a number of reasons. Namely due to the fact that they often completely fail to plan ahead for the patients future hair-loss issues and attempt to fix only the current state of your hair as it is today. Combine this with a lack of skill and or absence of a qualified doctor performing the extractions and you might end up with a lot of transection (where the extractions are done poorly and essentially kill the hair follicle upon removal), meaning that more extractions have to be made. An example of this might be that you have 5000 FU extracted, but only 3500 survive due to poor technique, so essentially a huge over compensation. The mindset seems to usually be one of just give the patient as many grafts as possible so that they have the best chance of acceptable/good results when using a really poor, rushed technique if that makes sense.
Max grafts for over-harvesting are going to completely depend on your donor characteristics - density, hair calibre, FU groupings (how many hairs you have per graft on average) and so on. As long as extractions are carried out properly with enough spacing and in the correct pattern etc, anywhere from 5 to 6, 7 or even 8 thousand grafts would be in the 'average' range (although I believe density is generally less for afro hair but could be wrong), with higher amount I just stated maybe exceeding average and into above-average territory. But even so some people have less than this and some lucky people even have more than this, so it depends on the person.
Having a consultation with a good/ethical local doctor would definitely be a good idea, just to get some accurate measurements of your donor, hair characteristics etc so you know where you stand before diving into surgery.
I don't know too much about Turkish clinics really as I have never really considered them too heavily, but whilst there are certainly some really good ones here and there, there are many more that could end up over-harvesting you, disfiguring the back of your head and leaving you much worse off than you are now, so just bear that in mind and don't make any rash decisions you might end up regretting for the rest of your life. I have coincidentally seen a couple of videos of some black guys who went to Asli Tarcan on YouTube, and from what I could see on their donor areas, they looked completely over-harvested with a clear pattern showing months and months down the line, so I would look into that a bit more and come to your own conclusion.
As for doctors that I know are good with afro hair, I know that Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Mwamba and Dr. Lupanzula (all in Belgium) are all considered to be experts in the field and they are all very ethical, renowned doctors who you don't need to worry about being over-harvested etc with. I would get in touch with all 3 and ask for their opinions. I've also heard dr. Diep in the states is supposed to be good with afro hair, but I don't know too much about him. Most of all don't let price sway your decision too much, save up more if you have to.
The most concerning thing in my opinion though with your case is your pattern of baldness; it is absolutely clear that you are eventually going to end up in Norwood 6 territory, maybe beyond. Your crown has already miniaturised a lot and it will continue to until it meets your hairline and there's little to nothing left on top. If you do nothing to prevent this then, in my opinion, this is inevitable and it will probably happen within the next decade or so, at which point you're going to be left with huge patches of hair missing. Not a good look.
Do some more research into fin, (really take the time to read into actual peer reviewed studies that have taken place over the span of 5, even 10 years with thousands of participants overall involved and their resulting safety profiles etc - don't just listen to completely anonymous anecdotal claims on forums on the internet) ultimately this is your own choice to use it or not, but I know you know your hair loss isn't going to magically stop in it's current state unfortunately. You need to think ahead my friend.
Hope that helps a bit
