My upcoming surgery and goals.

[Diffuse]

Hi all,

Im 27yrs old and i started to notice my hairloss when i was 20. My dad is 56 yrs old and he is NW5. My moms brothers are NW 4 and 5.

Im diffusers and i will end up NW5, no doubt about that. What i really hope is that i dont end up NW6-7! I hope Fin will help me with this!

Big mistake was that i did not start Fin earlier. I started Fin/Niz when i had lost density from top of my head and never regrow any dead hair.

I have not lost any hair since then (5yrs ago)and meds have helped me keeping my hair.
I will comtinue Fin and update to Duta if needed.

My goal!?

I have been visiting at few clinics and Dr`s have described my hair Tick and curly.

My donor is area density is below average de "65 FU per cm2".

People from Africa or Middle east have lower density, but theyr hair are much ticker and curlier than others hair and this gives good illusion when trying to brake lightining.

We all know SL from BHR-clinic and i think we all would love to have his results, but he has super density

What i want to achieve is "navy haircut" with maximum density that is possible.
Im not looking for low hairline or hair what i had when i was 18. What im looking for is to maximize my result.

Because of my low density im going to replace it with beard hair. What i mean is that my donor area is limited to 4000 FUE if lets say 30 percent were taken. Thats the amount what can be taken safetly.
Some Dr may till take 40 percent so this may give abit more hair.

This means that i cant achive my goals with 4000 grafts so i need more. What i think i can get from my beard is 2000 + grafts so it makes number up to 6000-6500k.


Are these toughts realistic?
Do i have any benefits on hairtransplant world because of my tick/curly hair?
Can i achive my goals?

 

[Diffuse]

Donor area wet hair.

 

[Diffuse]

My beard hair!

 

[sl]

Hi Diffuse

As a rule curly haired people tend to have lower native density and what you have seems to be the norm for that so nothing to worry about as such.
The curl will compensate for this when grown out, less so once the hair is cropped short as effectively you are killing the curl factor.

As your name suggests your loss is diffused so a gamble as to whether surgery is the right option presently considering your age and potential loss and the element of possible shock loss if you were to have surgery.

Be tempted to say keep on medication and see how things go before committing to surgery as you don't want to be simply chasing loss or giving yourself a low hairline that could be regretted at a later stage if the loss were to continue throughout the scalp.

As you say I had very high density compared to you and to most patients and I was still reliant upon body hair, so it is important to plan well and ensure your goals can be met before embarking upon surgery.

 

[Diffuse]

Hi SL,

As i said, i have been using Fin for 5yrs and it has helped me to keep what i have, but those hairs what i lost while not on meds has gone for ever.

What will happen now is smple. I know that Fin will help me keep my hair, but im going to lose some density in next 5-15 yers? No one knows for how long but the option is there .

Also as i said, im not looking for low hairline or getting back hair what i had when i was teenage.

So what do yoy guys think? im going to have my sergury, but about my expectations and goals. Can i reach them with my plan?

I trust that chosing a good clinic specially one who got experience dealing with diffusers will give me a good results!
6000 grafts with curly tick hair will deffinetly give a good result to even fully bald NW6.

3000 grafts for hair line to mid section and another 3000 grafts could be needed to cover a NW6 area right?

Few grat results by top clinics:

This one shows nicely what can be achived with 3k in hair line to mid section.

http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=2441&forum_id=17

This one is NW5 and results after only 6 month.

http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=1018&forum_id=43

In this case pictures speak for themselves.
http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=3014&forum_id=41
5027 grafts.
http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=3182&forum_id=41

Example of what a huge difference may 3200 grafts give even to patient who had previously 2 failed operations.
http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=3086&forum_id=41

 

[Prohairclinic]

You can also look at this video example of a diffuse thinning patient:http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=3613&forum_id=15
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[slapstick2]

from what ive seen from some of the docs on here i think its possible, you could always look into smp if you need to just to fill in the bits light will bounce off. but in all honesty
i think that is a large amount of grafts and should provide you with awesome coverage
what date are you going for it?

 

[topccat29]

Well you do seem to have excellent beard hair not sure if it's a match though.
Diffuse thinning and ht is a scary prospect my only suggestion would to be go very slow and do it over several procedures and then it's still no guarantee that you will not lose native hair. But it will give you more time to assess it as you move forward.

 

[Hattingen Hair]

With diffused loss there is always the complication with a hair transplant that the native hair will die off, so the planning is vital.

If it was assumed you are a NW4 say, then the entire frontal third and into the mid-section would need rebuilding, so any hair in that area would be redundant, simply because if left:

1. It will probably not grow back after surgery
2. If it did remain it would probably mean it will recede in the next years meaning your result in the treated area would be low in density in some areas.

Using BH means you will lose on the hair count, normally around 2.2 per FU, whereas BH is more like 1.2; so as a filler it helps but in terms of restoration it will not.

If you restrict techniques also this will hinder the long term result that can be achieved, but then with understanding that is irrelevant if you are happy and understand the limitations.

With a density of 65 and a fixed hair line, coupled with your age.... why not wait a little. From your pictures it seems you can cover the signs of loss if you wished to, maybe not ideal but maybe a HT is not either.

Or, maybe assume your loss will continue, rebuild the obvious areas so they do not need touching up and then come to the conclusion if your loss progresses you can live with it.

 

[Diffuse]

Thanks fot your replys!

slapstick2,

I know that (Milena @ BeautyMedical)is giving a temporary solution for hairloss with her great tecknique.
The great thing is also that the color faids in 2 years, but this is not what im after at the moment.

topccat29,

I have had live consulations with 2 clinics + i have had online consulations with few others and all of them have told me that my hair colour and curl is compatible to the natural scalp hair and my head hair is gross/tick so this is also good. (all clinics that i have contact do post in this forum)

Important issue will be my healing and i hope that it will heal nicely."hopefully like yours topcat "

I have planned my upcoming sergurys over several procedures.
In the first one im going to test my beard area healig also.

hattingen,

Im aware that patient who suffers from diffusing will have a big risk to lose native hair.
This is why i have planned my upcoming sergurys over several procedures.
I dont belive that i reach my goals in one session. I have to take multiple procedures to achieve the required goals.

For diffusers the biggest problem is ending up chasing your hairloss to the point that you dont have enough donor.

What im going to do to avoid this is:
1.Using Fin/Duta
2.Not creat low hairline
3.Able to use (hair-chest-beard)

We all know that hair transplants are all about numbers.

We all have seen beard hair mixed in with thiner scalp hair results in a very natural look.

 

[Diffuse]

I have my last consultation at friday!

Im really excited.If everything goes like i have planned i will have my surgery at monday.

 

[JohnnyDrama]

Good stuff! Where is your consultation?

 

[Bigmac]

Hi Diffuse,
I too tend to agree with TC that you should take it slow with your HTs, see how the beard grafts blend with your existing hair, you have a good donor supply, providing you meet the clinics requirements I think you will achieve your goals.
Looking forward to hearing how you got one with your consults.
Cheers Bm.