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BigMac
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There is so much speculation and distortion about what happens with the NeoGraft hair transplant procedure that we continue to feel an obligation to let your readers know the real facts about NeoGraft so that they can make the best choice for themselves. There is no science behind your comments and I quote: Suction is a force ¦to make the object move ¦this will have the effect of changing the structure of the "object" in this case the FUE graft/skin tissue. The tissue will alter its structure, the cells distort due to the force of the suction on them, As the cells are distorted they will strecth back and forth against the normal cultutre they live in creating if you like, "micro bruising" or simply they are then damaged.
Perhaps I did not explain it well in my prior post that follicles are least damaged by NeoGraft, compared to other methods, so I will try again. I am not expert at physics but let s take an analogy. Gas is a force to make your car move and the car incurs intense air pressure resistance as it moves. We all know how delicate the frame of a car is, because if you put some pressure with your hand on the frame you can dent it without too much effort. Yet cars go through this ordeal of driving every day and do not become distorted due to the forces of air, the material does not stretch back and forth and cars do not get micro bruised or damaged. Neither do follicles or airplanes for that matter. That is what technology is about- expanding the limits of human potential by understanding physics. Here is the real story. NeoGraft s process is the most gentle process up to date for follicles. Far more damage is done to follicles with the STRIP method and with the manual[/b] FUE method. With the STRIP method hundreds of follicles may be transected (damaged) as the doctor s knife excises (cuts out ) the strip of scalp from the patients head since he/she is cutting blind and cannot see the follicles he/she is cutting through. That Strip of scalp is then cut into smaller strips. Each time the strip of scalp is cut there are more chances to transect follicles. These smaller strips are then given to technicians who separate their strips into individual follicles. Follicles do not grow in a row so there is always a risk of follicles being transected again. How much transaction occurs depends on the skill of the technician. No doctors or forums ever speak of this, but this is what happens.
During this process the strip is exposed to the hot lights of a microscope, which is very drying. It is left to the discretion of the technician how much the follicles are sprayed so that they stay moist. It amazes me how much speculation there is about NeoGraft drying follicles when we have done live cases all over the country to show that with NeoGraft technology the harvested follicles are moist and robust and there is no damage or drying. There is a greater chance of follicles drying out with the Strip method than with NeoGraft . Furthermore, with the STRIP method there is also a risk of damaging the follicles during the implanting process. Tweezers are used to push and shove the follicles into slits that are not the same size as the follicles. Because each follicle is cut by hand and by different technicians they will all be different sizes. The technicians sometimes have to use force (here is a real force issue, as opposed to gentle negative air pressure) to push in the follicles into slits that do not match in size, which may damage the follicles. With thinner follicles, there is too much space around the follicle and it is loose, so may fall out. During the implanting process, some follicles might be pushed in too deep and become buried as the technician tries to push the follicle into the slit. This can cause complications. With NeoGraft all the follicles are the same size and that size matches the slits. No tweezers are used, so there is no pinching of the follicles as they are pushed and shoved into the slits with tweezers which can damage them as I have mentioned before. Many times grafts pop out while implanting with tweezers and these have to be pushed back into the slit site. Implanting follicles during a manual[/b] FUE process is the same procedure as used with the SLIT method. Tweezers are used in manual[/b] FUE also for implanting with the same potential for damaging the follicles.
These problems do not occur with the NeoGraft FUE implanting device. NeoGraft uses very gentle negative pressure to place the follicles into receptor sites that are the same size as the follicles so the follicles have a good fit and there is less chance of them popping out or falling out. The doctor will not experience buried follicles, nor will follicles be damaged by tweezers because none are used. I think we could mention here also that with the STRIP procedure there is a risk of cutting nerves and arteries, which sometimes causes persistent pain, whereas with an FUE procedure there is not this risk. Another problem is that for some patients, after the strip is sutured, depending on the laxity of the skin, they may feel a tightness at the back of their head which is very unpleasant to live with. This does not occur with FUE. The STRIP procedure is much more invasive than an FUE procedure and many patients experience extensive pain after the STRIP procedure, which requires strong medication, whereas an FUE procedure is not as invasive or as painful. Most patients only feel some feel a mild discomfort. The down time for an FUE procedure is much less than for STRIP and the patient can do physical activites quite soon after an FUE procedure, but not with STRIP. Extensive long scars are a possibility with the Strip procedure whereas with FUE scarring is minimal and consists of tiny almost microscopic scars, barely visible allowing hair to be worn short. It is obvious there are benefits to the patient in having an FUE procedure but manual[/b] FUE has problems.
A manual[/b] FUE procedure, one that does not use NeoGraft, has a major problem because the doctor has to use tweezers to extract the follicles as they are not harvested from a strip of scalp. Using tweezers to extract follicles causes a high transaction rate (damaged follicles), in the neighbourhood of 10 to 30 percent depending on the characteristics of the follicles and the skill of the doctor. The doctor has to squeeze the follicle, and yank and pull it out and this exposes the follicle to damage. Scoring the follicle causes many transections also because it is difficult for the doctor to hold his hand at the angle of hair growth. Also the doctor s hand becomes very tired after a few hours, causing more risk for transections and a large transplant might take two or more days to do. Because of the high transaction rate most doctors do not offer FUE hair transplants. Curly hair is especially difficult to extract, as the follicles splay, and there are some other types of follicles which are challenging to extract. The majority of doctors would never attempt to do a manual FUE with these patients because of the difficulties the hair presents. So most doctors stick with the STRIP method, even though FUE is more beneficial for the patient as pointed out above.
The high transaction rate of a manual FUE negates some of the benefits of a manual FUE. That has changed now with NeoGraft. Now patients can reap the benefits of an FUE hair transplant and not be exposed to a high transaction rate regardless of the type of hair they have. NeoGraft has done African American hair transplants, live, one of the most difficult types of hair, with a low transaction rate. Doctors who have a large number of African American patients have bought NeoGraft. NeoGraft, simplifies the transplant process and the procedure does not depend on the skill of the surgeon as much as a manual FUE. Of course the doctor has to be trained on NeoGraft and skillful in using the NeoGraft tool, but with NeoGraft,,the tool guides the doctor and as a result we are seeing low transaction rates with NeoGraft. There are other technical reasons for the low transaction rate but these are too complicated to explain. NeoGraft also speeds up the transplant process by more than two times so that a transplant of 3,500 hairs that might take 2-3 days with manual FUE can be done in one day now with NeoGraft.
Sparky, your comment: so it [NeoGraft] after it cuts the flesh around the graft in an fue fashion, the suction then rips it from its base and up the tube, you couldnt pay me enough to undergo this should not be a comment written about NeoGraft but about manual [/b]FUE procedures. As I mentioned, with manual FUE you can have transections as high as 10-30 percent because of the squeezing, yanking and pulling, or ripping as you call it, especially if the patient has grafts that are strongly anchored. (Everyone is different). NeoGraft avoids these problems. With NeoGraft s technology, the grafts are gently harvested with suction that can be adjusted to each patient s personal profile, depending on how deeply or strongly the grafts are anchored. Each graft is scored with a depth adjusted to the patients unique characteristics and then the grafts are gently suctioned out. With NeoGraft s system, we have shown an extremely low transaction rate (damage rate) for follicles, as mentioned, even with difficult, splayed African American hair, which we have shown at our demonstrations.
At the Live Surgery Workshop our transaction rate was between 1-2 percent. The FUE instrument that demonstrated before NeoGraft at the Live Surgery Show had a transaction rate about 5 times higher!! All the instruments shown at the show were to harvest the same amount of follicles, but NeoGraft harvested close to double the amount of follicles than the other instruments did at the show because doctors asked us to keep going. By pulling more grafts than the other demonstrators we were exposing ourselves to more transections but this did not happen. We still had the lowest count. Sparky, your comment that there is nothing wrong with standard non motorised fue, therefore no reason to try to better it might be your personal view, but I do not think that once a patient understands how NeoGraft works there will be anyone who agrees with you. You might think it is okay to choose a manual non motorized procedure that has a 10 to 30 percent transaction rate as opposed to a 2 percent or less with NeoGraft but for most balding patients every follicle is precious and they do not want to lose any more than necessary. You can choose to believe that if NeoGraft feels no need to post pictures, we feel no need to believe that neograft is any good. How good NeoGraft is does not depend on yours or anyone s belief but on facts. Patients are not interested in beliefs and this is not fair reporting to them, it is misleading. You can also advise patients (based on your beliefs, not evidence) to steer away from NeoGraft, and that is your right, but if you do so you are doing an injustice to those patients who come to your site. I doubt they will pay you any heed once they understand the benefits of a NeoGraft procedure.
I think it is time to accept that NeoGraft is an improvement over what is available today. Why fight technology so hard, especially when we are so transparent with the excellent results of NeoGraft. The facts are out there so why keep writing such speculative and incorrect information for your readers? Why would we do live demonstrations that to use BigMac s words: changes structure of tissue, distorts cells, and causes microbruising, or damage to follicles. More importantly, the doctors who are acquiring NeoGraft would have to be dumb to purchase such a device. Most doctors spend months or more than a year investigating the NeoGraft device before purchasing NeoGraft They often come to several shows, follow up on results, ask lots of questions etc. When a reader questions you about NeoGraft, it would be more fair and honest to the reader to not go into negative criticisms based on a lack of knowledge about the technology of NeoGraft but to honestly tell the reader that you do not have answers for their questions because you do not know how NeoGraft works nor have you seen NeoGraft procedures (because if you had you would not write such false information). You might advise your readers to search further and do their due diligence.
Finally BigMac you ask maybe you could take the NeoGraft machine to these doctors clinics and perform FUE. We can then get feedback from them. This is what we are doing BigMac. We are going all over the U.S. scheduling live demonstrations with doctors who are hair restoration doctors, some of which do FUE, and those who would like to do hair restoration. The feedback is that doctors are purchasing NeoGraft so they must see the value of this device. But what about the Live Surgery Workshop? So many doctors were there why not speak with them yourself. As for your other request, we do not ask doctors to write in to forums for us, as there are many forums I have contacted, who were writing false information. We follow our business plan and that is to demonstrate for doctors the NeoGraft device. As for your last request: Can you direct at least 5/10 patients to this forum to share their experience with documented pictures. The NeoGraft group does not do transplants and patient information is confidential. So it would have to be the doctors themselves, with consent from the patients who can direct patients to you. We are however, building a new web site and are in the process of working with the doctors to give us before and after pictures so that these will hopefully be available soon, along with videos of the work NeoGraft does.
I am affiliated with NeoGraft.
There is so much speculation and distortion about what happens with the NeoGraft hair transplant procedure that we continue to feel an obligation to let your readers know the real facts about NeoGraft so that they can make the best choice for themselves. There is no science behind your comments and I quote: Suction is a force ¦to make the object move ¦this will have the effect of changing the structure of the "object" in this case the FUE graft/skin tissue. The tissue will alter its structure, the cells distort due to the force of the suction on them, As the cells are distorted they will strecth back and forth against the normal cultutre they live in creating if you like, "micro bruising" or simply they are then damaged.
Perhaps I did not explain it well in my prior post that follicles are least damaged by NeoGraft, compared to other methods, so I will try again. I am not expert at physics but let s take an analogy. Gas is a force to make your car move and the car incurs intense air pressure resistance as it moves. We all know how delicate the frame of a car is, because if you put some pressure with your hand on the frame you can dent it without too much effort. Yet cars go through this ordeal of driving every day and do not become distorted due to the forces of air, the material does not stretch back and forth and cars do not get micro bruised or damaged. Neither do follicles or airplanes for that matter. That is what technology is about- expanding the limits of human potential by understanding physics. Here is the real story. NeoGraft s process is the most gentle process up to date for follicles. Far more damage is done to follicles with the STRIP method and with the manual[/b] FUE method. With the STRIP method hundreds of follicles may be transected (damaged) as the doctor s knife excises (cuts out ) the strip of scalp from the patients head since he/she is cutting blind and cannot see the follicles he/she is cutting through. That Strip of scalp is then cut into smaller strips. Each time the strip of scalp is cut there are more chances to transect follicles. These smaller strips are then given to technicians who separate their strips into individual follicles. Follicles do not grow in a row so there is always a risk of follicles being transected again. How much transaction occurs depends on the skill of the technician. No doctors or forums ever speak of this, but this is what happens.
During this process the strip is exposed to the hot lights of a microscope, which is very drying. It is left to the discretion of the technician how much the follicles are sprayed so that they stay moist. It amazes me how much speculation there is about NeoGraft drying follicles when we have done live cases all over the country to show that with NeoGraft technology the harvested follicles are moist and robust and there is no damage or drying. There is a greater chance of follicles drying out with the Strip method than with NeoGraft . Furthermore, with the STRIP method there is also a risk of damaging the follicles during the implanting process. Tweezers are used to push and shove the follicles into slits that are not the same size as the follicles. Because each follicle is cut by hand and by different technicians they will all be different sizes. The technicians sometimes have to use force (here is a real force issue, as opposed to gentle negative air pressure) to push in the follicles into slits that do not match in size, which may damage the follicles. With thinner follicles, there is too much space around the follicle and it is loose, so may fall out. During the implanting process, some follicles might be pushed in too deep and become buried as the technician tries to push the follicle into the slit. This can cause complications. With NeoGraft all the follicles are the same size and that size matches the slits. No tweezers are used, so there is no pinching of the follicles as they are pushed and shoved into the slits with tweezers which can damage them as I have mentioned before. Many times grafts pop out while implanting with tweezers and these have to be pushed back into the slit site. Implanting follicles during a manual[/b] FUE process is the same procedure as used with the SLIT method. Tweezers are used in manual[/b] FUE also for implanting with the same potential for damaging the follicles.
These problems do not occur with the NeoGraft FUE implanting device. NeoGraft uses very gentle negative pressure to place the follicles into receptor sites that are the same size as the follicles so the follicles have a good fit and there is less chance of them popping out or falling out. The doctor will not experience buried follicles, nor will follicles be damaged by tweezers because none are used. I think we could mention here also that with the STRIP procedure there is a risk of cutting nerves and arteries, which sometimes causes persistent pain, whereas with an FUE procedure there is not this risk. Another problem is that for some patients, after the strip is sutured, depending on the laxity of the skin, they may feel a tightness at the back of their head which is very unpleasant to live with. This does not occur with FUE. The STRIP procedure is much more invasive than an FUE procedure and many patients experience extensive pain after the STRIP procedure, which requires strong medication, whereas an FUE procedure is not as invasive or as painful. Most patients only feel some feel a mild discomfort. The down time for an FUE procedure is much less than for STRIP and the patient can do physical activites quite soon after an FUE procedure, but not with STRIP. Extensive long scars are a possibility with the Strip procedure whereas with FUE scarring is minimal and consists of tiny almost microscopic scars, barely visible allowing hair to be worn short. It is obvious there are benefits to the patient in having an FUE procedure but manual[/b] FUE has problems.
A manual[/b] FUE procedure, one that does not use NeoGraft, has a major problem because the doctor has to use tweezers to extract the follicles as they are not harvested from a strip of scalp. Using tweezers to extract follicles causes a high transaction rate (damaged follicles), in the neighbourhood of 10 to 30 percent depending on the characteristics of the follicles and the skill of the doctor. The doctor has to squeeze the follicle, and yank and pull it out and this exposes the follicle to damage. Scoring the follicle causes many transections also because it is difficult for the doctor to hold his hand at the angle of hair growth. Also the doctor s hand becomes very tired after a few hours, causing more risk for transections and a large transplant might take two or more days to do. Because of the high transaction rate most doctors do not offer FUE hair transplants. Curly hair is especially difficult to extract, as the follicles splay, and there are some other types of follicles which are challenging to extract. The majority of doctors would never attempt to do a manual FUE with these patients because of the difficulties the hair presents. So most doctors stick with the STRIP method, even though FUE is more beneficial for the patient as pointed out above.
The high transaction rate of a manual FUE negates some of the benefits of a manual FUE. That has changed now with NeoGraft. Now patients can reap the benefits of an FUE hair transplant and not be exposed to a high transaction rate regardless of the type of hair they have. NeoGraft has done African American hair transplants, live, one of the most difficult types of hair, with a low transaction rate. Doctors who have a large number of African American patients have bought NeoGraft. NeoGraft, simplifies the transplant process and the procedure does not depend on the skill of the surgeon as much as a manual FUE. Of course the doctor has to be trained on NeoGraft and skillful in using the NeoGraft tool, but with NeoGraft,,the tool guides the doctor and as a result we are seeing low transaction rates with NeoGraft. There are other technical reasons for the low transaction rate but these are too complicated to explain. NeoGraft also speeds up the transplant process by more than two times so that a transplant of 3,500 hairs that might take 2-3 days with manual FUE can be done in one day now with NeoGraft.
Sparky, your comment: so it [NeoGraft] after it cuts the flesh around the graft in an fue fashion, the suction then rips it from its base and up the tube, you couldnt pay me enough to undergo this should not be a comment written about NeoGraft but about manual [/b]FUE procedures. As I mentioned, with manual FUE you can have transections as high as 10-30 percent because of the squeezing, yanking and pulling, or ripping as you call it, especially if the patient has grafts that are strongly anchored. (Everyone is different). NeoGraft avoids these problems. With NeoGraft s technology, the grafts are gently harvested with suction that can be adjusted to each patient s personal profile, depending on how deeply or strongly the grafts are anchored. Each graft is scored with a depth adjusted to the patients unique characteristics and then the grafts are gently suctioned out. With NeoGraft s system, we have shown an extremely low transaction rate (damage rate) for follicles, as mentioned, even with difficult, splayed African American hair, which we have shown at our demonstrations.
At the Live Surgery Workshop our transaction rate was between 1-2 percent. The FUE instrument that demonstrated before NeoGraft at the Live Surgery Show had a transaction rate about 5 times higher!! All the instruments shown at the show were to harvest the same amount of follicles, but NeoGraft harvested close to double the amount of follicles than the other instruments did at the show because doctors asked us to keep going. By pulling more grafts than the other demonstrators we were exposing ourselves to more transections but this did not happen. We still had the lowest count. Sparky, your comment that there is nothing wrong with standard non motorised fue, therefore no reason to try to better it might be your personal view, but I do not think that once a patient understands how NeoGraft works there will be anyone who agrees with you. You might think it is okay to choose a manual non motorized procedure that has a 10 to 30 percent transaction rate as opposed to a 2 percent or less with NeoGraft but for most balding patients every follicle is precious and they do not want to lose any more than necessary. You can choose to believe that if NeoGraft feels no need to post pictures, we feel no need to believe that neograft is any good. How good NeoGraft is does not depend on yours or anyone s belief but on facts. Patients are not interested in beliefs and this is not fair reporting to them, it is misleading. You can also advise patients (based on your beliefs, not evidence) to steer away from NeoGraft, and that is your right, but if you do so you are doing an injustice to those patients who come to your site. I doubt they will pay you any heed once they understand the benefits of a NeoGraft procedure.
I think it is time to accept that NeoGraft is an improvement over what is available today. Why fight technology so hard, especially when we are so transparent with the excellent results of NeoGraft. The facts are out there so why keep writing such speculative and incorrect information for your readers? Why would we do live demonstrations that to use BigMac s words: changes structure of tissue, distorts cells, and causes microbruising, or damage to follicles. More importantly, the doctors who are acquiring NeoGraft would have to be dumb to purchase such a device. Most doctors spend months or more than a year investigating the NeoGraft device before purchasing NeoGraft They often come to several shows, follow up on results, ask lots of questions etc. When a reader questions you about NeoGraft, it would be more fair and honest to the reader to not go into negative criticisms based on a lack of knowledge about the technology of NeoGraft but to honestly tell the reader that you do not have answers for their questions because you do not know how NeoGraft works nor have you seen NeoGraft procedures (because if you had you would not write such false information). You might advise your readers to search further and do their due diligence.
Finally BigMac you ask maybe you could take the NeoGraft machine to these doctors clinics and perform FUE. We can then get feedback from them. This is what we are doing BigMac. We are going all over the U.S. scheduling live demonstrations with doctors who are hair restoration doctors, some of which do FUE, and those who would like to do hair restoration. The feedback is that doctors are purchasing NeoGraft so they must see the value of this device. But what about the Live Surgery Workshop? So many doctors were there why not speak with them yourself. As for your other request, we do not ask doctors to write in to forums for us, as there are many forums I have contacted, who were writing false information. We follow our business plan and that is to demonstrate for doctors the NeoGraft device. As for your last request: Can you direct at least 5/10 patients to this forum to share their experience with documented pictures. The NeoGraft group does not do transplants and patient information is confidential. So it would have to be the doctors themselves, with consent from the patients who can direct patients to you. We are however, building a new web site and are in the process of working with the doctors to give us before and after pictures so that these will hopefully be available soon, along with videos of the work NeoGraft does.
