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NeoGraft Peer Review at Orlando Live Surgery ISHRS WorkShop

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desirehair

Valued member
Sparky,
As I stated in my last post even though I think enough information has been given to your readers about NeoGraft, and I am going to take a break I decided to comment on your last post. One of the reasons we do not normally post pictures of patients is that NeoGraft is a tool in a doctor`s hand. NeoGraft does not do a procedure by itself. Pictures that we show of NeoGraft patients are really pictures of how well the doctor is able to use NeoGraft`s potential. The excellence of the transplant in the picture has to with the doctor's skills, not NeoGraft.

We know NeoGraft is engineered to do what it is meant to do FUE procedures and do them well. However, a doctor with skills is still required to partner with NeoGraft if the final outcome is going to project what NeoGraft is able to accomplish. As you know some doctors are more skilled than others, but this does not take away from NeoGrafts technical abilities. NeoGraft assists the doctor by making the procedure simpler, by offering technological advances to help the doctor: keep transaction levels low; keep the grafts misted and moist; speed up the process; use a no cutting no stitching non invasive method; do a minimally painful procedure; eliminate elongated scars; reduce healing time; avoid buried grafts; and most important benefit the patient. These are HUGE benefits offered by NeoGraft. Not everyone is a candidate for FUE but with NeoGraft many more patients are than would otherwise be.

Having pointed out these features of NeoGraft, does not guarantee that every doctor can know where to place grafts, or do hairlines, or generally make good decisions about the hairtransplant procedure. I do not understand what you are referring to when you use the term "the surgery is not refined." This is not a medical term. However, if you are referring to the crusting, this picture is less than 2 weeks old. You know that genetics plays a huge role in how surgery healing proceeds and everyone is different in how they heal. If you have criticisms of the picture you decided to display this has nothing to do with NeoGraft, but with the doctor and the genetics of the patient. On the other hand, I felt the picture was an honest picture of a patient with spars hair and this doctor followed the natural hair density in doing the transplant, this was his choice. The transplant is only 6 months, and there is another 6-12 months of hair growth. Another doctor might have made another choice how to place grafts and do the proceedure. The NeoGraft device was not involved in any of these decisions, as it is not advanced enough yet to make independent decisions maybe soon our research and development team can come up with such a device for NeoGraft and then the doctor`s skill will hardly be required and they will become the robots . (LOL) On a serious note however, this speak to the readers to choose their doctor wisely. A skilled doctor + a Neograft device is the best combination we have today for most patients.
(I am affiliated with NeoGraft).
 
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desirehair

Valued member
Sparky,
I realized after I reread your post that you were referring to the "grafts not being refined." As I stated before, and you know also, patients are genetically different and they produce different looking grafts. Some are long, some are short, some are robust and thick, others more puny and thin, some are strong, some are fragile. I have even seen patients produce different shaped grafts in different parts of their head. The important task of a graft harvester, whether a doctor alone (manual FUE) or a doctor with a machine like NeoGraft is to harvest the grafts without transections. The kind of grafts a patient has, whether they are refined or not (whatever that means to you) has nothing to do with NeoGraft. NeoGraft's only job is to help the doctor harvest the grafts the patient came with without transection. If the grafts were unrefined, then that is the kind of grafts this patient grew. This should not deter NeoGraft and the doctor from harvesting them. What I am basically saying is that NeoGraft and the doctor do not take grafts and make them appear unrefined, even though I am not sure what you mean by this. Grafts grow kind of like people. Some are refined, others are not, but doctors still treat both kinds of people and even more variety of people and NeoGraft harvests all different kinds of grafts.
 
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hairtech

member
Geez I am sorry to say this without a huge arguement but in any... and I mean ANY FUE extraction... there will be transections... and I have personally seen a couple of NEOGRAFT experts... that being persons who have performed Neograft extractions that in fact have had transection rates that were very high... However in your defense I have seen the Neograft have low transection rates also. Everyone... manual or not has transections rates that cannot be predicted. I am not knocking the Neograft machine... but am in my opinion I have to state with all honesty... the technology has not surpassed a well seasoned manual punch clinic such as Dr. Bisanga, Dr. feller... or even Dr. Cole... People know that I am very opinionated, open and say it like it is... And what I am saying is this: The Neograft in my opinion works for certain situations... but not all situations. The transection rates, in my opinion, for this machine has not surpassed the traditional manual approach to FUE. I hope it changes through revisions of the machine in time.

Question: Desirehair... How long have you been in this industry? And specifically working with FUE? ;)
 
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Bigmac

Bigmac

Administrator
Staff member
Hi Desirehair.

Can you contact the doctors who have jointly done over 18000 HT`s with the Neograft in the last two years and ask the for well documented patient testimonials with quality pictures of pre op,post op and the final result.

There must be at least a few out of 18000 who have documented their HT transformation.

Thanks bm.
 
Sparky

Sparky

Valued member
"Sparky,
I realized after I reread your post that you were referring to the "grafts not being refined." As I stated before, and you know also, patients are genetically different and they produce different looking grafts."

I wasnt born yesterday, I've had a bad procedure or 2 and they looked like Neografts grafts, I've since had 2 good procedures (results pending on second) by Dr Bisanga and the grafts look totally different. Its all to do with the surgeon what the grafts look like, not the patient.

The fact that you seem to of allied yourself's with Alan Bauman isnt going to do you any favours either, hes a terrible doctor.
 
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Alan J. Bauman M.D.

Member
Thank you for asking about NeoGraft results. I am not sure that our patients would agree with your preliminary assessments, however. (Your personal attacks are quite childish by the way and do not serve hair loss patients well.) The hair transplant results from NeoGraft FUE are simple to find if you use the search engine google. Here's a quick link to some of our results in the recipient areas and donor aflickr.com/photos/alanbauman/sets/72157624943245707/with/5260268465 The healing and hair growth results below are from a patient's surgery in 2009 totaling 1,985 grafts (4664 follicles exactly) extracted with 0.8mm NeoGraft FUE in a one-day session completed before 5pm. Note the skin recovery at one week at the recipient area and donor area as well as the growth at 12 months. These grafts were implanted by hand, but NeoGraft also allows for 'no-touch' implantation.

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mars

Valued member
I wouldnt let bauman touch my head in a million years id sooner attempt a diy job myself..terrible doc plus a huge fraud,people like him are exactly whats wrong with this industry,has the media wrapped around his finger and continues to ruin lives.

He also promotes laser at a huge price for one yr worth of treatment,10,000 if my memory serves me correct,dr feller made him look like a fool on the baldtruth for promoting laser therapy..bottom line this guy is a joke!!
 
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Sparky

Valued member
I posted this in May and you only get round to responding now? massive FAIL, I've seen that guy who you put 3 massive scars on, he looks terrible, has no growth and you have all his money.

The 7 day post op shaved hairline makes the grafts look like they are line up like soldiers, not very natural looking at all.

And I agree with Mars, Dr Feller made you look stupid.
 
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runman

Valued member
My name is Carl Counts. I agree with mars dont let bauman the butcher touch your head. I allowed him to do 3 surgeries on me and he butchered me big time with no results. He photo shops pics . So dont believe any of his before and after pics. Run from alan bauman!!!!



bauman will now go to the moderator with private messages crying that im trying to extort money from him. Then he continues to play the victim card and say im threatening him. Strange he is never able to produce any proof of this. This is his MO when patients expose him for the butcher he is!!!
 
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runman

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http://www.hairlosshelp.com/FORUMS/messageview.cfm?catid=58&threadid=88415&enterthread=y


Please read that thread to see the butcher job bauman did on that patient. Not to mention he took him for over 50 thousand dollars. bauman thrives on ill informed patients and charges ridiculous prices for terrible results.
 
Sparky

Sparky

Valued member
The Moderator of this forum won't just blindly believe what bauman has to say, and I'm sure he is aware of your case anyway m8.
 
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Alan J. Bauman M.D.

Member
I think its fair to say that regardless of what is posted, readers will each have their own perspective. Every forum has it's own bias... that's the nature of the Internet. For those who choose to learn the science about NeoGraft FUE or Laser Therapy, etc. or even a disgruntled patient's motivation and his real story, there's plenty of info out there.

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What do you see?

 
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mars

Valued member
Its not the neograft alone we dont like its you also,can you justify your work on runman?thats disgracefull by the worst of standards and here's you then all over tv pretending you're great,you sicken me.

People on this forum are clever folk let me tell you,its the only forum i joined because their is no bullshit and your are full of it,idiot.
 
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runman

Valued member
Alan J. Bauman, M.D. wrote:
I think its fair to say that regardless of what is posted, readers will each have their own perspective. Every forum has it's own bias... that's the nature of the Internet. For those who choose to learn the science about NeoGraft FUE or Laser Therapy, etc. or even a disgruntled patient's motivation and his real story, there's plenty of info out there.

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What do you see?
you are such a smooth talker. you definitely should have been a politician. My real story and pics are posted on this site. So go ahead and make up some more lies to cover your butchery!!!!! The posters here know fact from lies. Your money and lies only stretch so far
 
Sparky

Sparky

Valued member
We don't have a bias on here, we just know who's good and who's not, and you fall into the "not" category.
 
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runman

Valued member
Those scars are horrific. bauman you are truly a butcher!!
 
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runman

Valued member
http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=1293&forum_id=3

The above thread has pics of the butchery i suffered at the hands of bauman the butcher!!!
 
Prohairclinic

Prohairclinic

Prohairclinic Scalp Micro Pigmentation
Can you explain what we are looking at?

3 strips?
FUE in the middle area where it is all red?
 
Sparky

Sparky

Valued member
Definatly 3 strips, not sure about the fue though, maybe?
 
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runman

Valued member
Sparky wrote:
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What do you see?
I have spoke to this guy. He says bauman has contacted him since this butchery trying to talk him into yet another surgery. There is no limits to bauman's corruption
 
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