ACell = Hair Cloning and the End of "Limited Donor" Concerns

[Westonci]

HairHunter wrote:

I wonder will this method make the current fue procedure a thing of the past. I wonder how many hairs can be plucked and planted in a day?

http://www.iahrs.org/news/spencer-kobren-interviews-gary-hitzig-acell/


In part I at around 13:00 Hitzig says he implanted 50 plucked hairs, soaked in Acell, into scar tissue, and these hairs multiplied and the result was 150 hairs growing after 8 months.

He says that for every one plucked hairs that is implanted 3 hairs will grow. Im very excited

 

[Westonci]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPq1q2Z4P0

I made a sensationalist video on Youtube, sorry I couldnt help it

 

[manpower]

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3725&page=9

 

[Westonci]

ACell MatriStem for Hair Loss €“ Dr. Gary Hitzig Displays His Preliminary Results

http://www.iahrs.org/news/acell-matr...inary-results/

 

[mattj]

Khalil wrote:

ACell MatriStem for Hair Loss €“ Dr. Gary Hitzig Displays His Preliminary Results

http://www.iahrs.org/news/acell-matr...inary-results/

Your link is truncated.

http://www.iahrs.org/news/acell-matristem-hair-loss-dr-gary-hitzig-displays-preliminary-results/

 

[Westonci]

pvtpoint2010 wrote:

See........ told you !! ¬b`

How much is Dr. Jerry Cooley charging per plucked hair?

I heard somewhere hes charging $10 per hair

 

[pvtpoint2010]

I think he is charging $10 however he did my test for much less.....

I think that price is way to expensive at this stage of the game...experimental

as a matter of fact even if it becomes a reliable treatment $10 is still way to high as Acell only costs a few hundred

If the average person needs around 10,000 hairs the math shows over 100K

98% of the hair loss population can not afford that.....

If it becomes an actual treatment i think a much more reasonable price should be Similar to a top notch FUE price....Between $3 and $5 per 1000

 

[Optimist]

Any update on your Acell test pvt?

 

[topccat29]

Optimist, the last post I read by pvt was on another forum. After being an avid poster he seems to have disappeared. Hopefully we will see him posting again. Although he has no photographic evidence of his procedure being a success he did state that his barber thought it looked like he had more hair as he combed through the area but couldn €™t say for certain. I remember thinking the same thing back in 1980 when I tried the world famous Helsinki Formula.

In case you don €™t keep up with any of the other forums another patient had a procedure of plucked hairs with Cooley and it was a complete failure. He posted his results which included an area of scar tissue that was made much worse. There might be others out there that were successful but as of yet we have not heard of any. As compensation the clinic offered to perform beard fue to repair the situation, but since they have little experience the patient passed on the offer.

For those that are willing to undergo a CWE (complete wallet extraction), a veteran patient was recently quoted on an internet chat show a price of $3000 for a 50 plucked hair procedure by Hitzig of which 30 should grow. This might have included lunch and a parking validation, I €™m not sure.

I wish there was something a bit more positive to report in the area of unlimited donor, but at this point is still seems a little sketchy. I apologize for sounding like a complete smartass here, but really how is anyone that has been around the block suppose to believe any of this hype on Acell and hair plucking. Some of these clinics have been around for well over 20 years but they don €™t have the capability of posting one decent picture of anything. Sorry but I €™m not buying what they are selling.

 

[pvtpoint2010]

hay guys...I'm around just been busy...I herniated a disk in my back and work for the Dept of Sanitation in NY ...my job is to bend, lift extremely heavy objects and walk 5-7 hours a day.....so been trying to heal with PT.....

So been really busy with that over the past few months...My current update is to just tell everyone that so far it seems the plucked hairs placed into the scar is slowly growing ...not sure if its 100% though.....I cant seem to find the FUE spots he planted into .....nor do i see any immediate improvement in the white dots he extracted.

I'm going to try to visit Cooley in june/july for an 8 month checkup....

if it confirmed to be an improvement better then say 50% ill going to go for a second round.....Im sure he has made some advancements to the technique since last Sept....

I hope anyway

 

[topccat29]

Pvt, thank you for posting the update and explanation. I €™m always a bit skeptical when a poster completely disappears for no apparent reason. You should really try and take photos to substantiate your progress somewhere along the way. Visual recollection is not a good indicator.

Sorry to hear about your back problem. I wish I could give you some advice but most of what I have to say is preventative in nature and at this point would not be of much help. Eventually when the time is right you need to strengthen the trunk muscles to alleviate some of the stress to the spine, but I €™m sure you already know that.

 

[pvtpoint2010]

Thanks Topccat

I'm on the job 13 years with minor injuries up till now...

Went for 2 MRI thus far with somewhat good results...The first showed a severe l4-l5 herniation with floating disk fragments....

they wanted to perform immediate surgery .....in order to locate the floaters they needed a second MRI

The second was done less then 5 weeks from the first.....However the second showed almost NOTHING!...

The extrusion was almost gone, and the disk itself was healing much faster then expected.....

Though i still have what feels like a pinched nerve in my left calf and ankle from the nerve root inflammation i started doing several sets of sit ups,stretching exercises and side twist PT using a large ball daily....

they say it was a 1 on 1000 recovery and should be ready to go back to work by next month.....my injury occurred in November 2010

As far as transplants, Acell, FUE and the rest ....Trust me..... I'm with you guys 100%....I too have been put through the mill since I was 27 .....I'm now 42.......

the only thing saving my ASS at this point is I'm still more or less around a norwood 3.5 and have stabilized over the years except for the thinning hairline.

The hairline still shows slight traces of the older bullshit HITZIG punch grafts.. AND I HAD OVER 30 surgically removed, another 30 or so electrolysis then the whole left hairline area dermabraded...... AND I STILL HAVE PITS,MARKS and large grafts!....

Been on proscar 2.5 up to about a year ago ......But since my last shed earlier last year I raised it to 5.0 daily...The shed has since halted......Dr Hasson said my issue was mostly due to me stopping the meds for 2 months in Feb last year......

I was even thinking of having the rest electrolyzed down from 5 or more hairs to only 1 or 2 hairs....then go for 1 or 2 smaller session to fill it in once and for all....

Feller feels 1500 just in the hairline and back 1 inch , Cole feels about the same 1500, Cooley feels 2000, Bernstine feels 2000 and H & W feels about 3000......

I want to see how the plucking idea works first.....

PVT

 

[topccat29]

Pvt, now that you have posted your history which I have not seen before my picture of you is quite different. I €™m sure you can understand my initial skepticism of your postings. Since this is the internet and we both know the forums at times can be deceptive. Sometimes it €™s hard to figure out who is posting the truth and who is here for other reasons.

Your history and response says all one needs to know. Instead of labeling someone that questions something a basher you simply gave a polite and logical explanation. I think this is a particularly important point for others to take notice of. Recently it was stated on another forum that I had an axe to grind simply because a question was asked or a statement was made. I know instantly when the question is not answered and the issue is deflected into something completely different and I personally come under attack that a red flag has been raised.

Thanks again for keeping us updated.

 

[Bobjoe]

Pvtpoint

We really need your advice on this.

How did the experiment with injecting Acell to your old white fue scar-dot go? Did you see any inprovement in terms of blending the scar out to a more natural tone?

If this works I think your idea of using a Tatoo machine filled with Acell to better the fue scars is really ground breaking for many of us suffering from fue scarring (white dots)

Please let us know if you had any improvement of your existing white dot scar.

 

[pvtpoint2010]

The white dots are the same but the scar is a little better in the area the Acell and plucking was done......Not the color though just a few more hairs in the scar...



I will post more when I know more from Cooley after my June visit

so far so good though!

 

[Bobjoe]

Sorry but I dont really understand.

When you say you had improvement of the scar are you talking about a new scar then?

Did you inject a old white dot from a previous fue extraction with Acell - without putting any hair into it etc?

I am trying to find out if your idea of injecting Acell into white dots could have any improvement of the scar. In other words make the white dot go away.

This without doing any plucking etc since I am only trying to find out about a possible way for fue scar repair (getting rid of white dots).

Thank you for your reply.

 

[pvtpoint2010]

I have 2 strip scars and hundreds of FUE white dots from Cole....

Cooley never injected Acell into the white dots except for 3 he punched out then let heal with Acell...I cant seem to tell if there is any improvement other then what my barber says....She said she cant see a big difference but she also said she's not 100% sure she's looking at the correct dots!..

This will need to be reviewed by Cooley........

The strip scar was done with about 60 or so plucked hairs dipped in Acell the scar color looks the same again according to my barber but she did say the area was fuller

 

[pvtpoint2010]

i also had a few dozen white dots planted with plucked hairs ..this area also looks better....

It was only a small test!

 

[Bobjoe]

Ok then I understand

Would it be possible for you to ask Cooley to inject Acell to a couple of old white dots when you go back to him? Just to monitor if the scar fades out within a couple of weeks.

I know this is maybe to much to ask for but I live in France and Usa is so far from me. Actually it was you that gave me this idea from the very first start and also which if it worked one could implement with the Tatoo machine like you said.

So if its not to big demand maybe he could just inject three or four white dots and then you will see if it works? If you say it does i will take the first plane over there since I have really bad white dots and I don't know what to do.

Also I know there are many in similar situation like me.

Many thanks.

 

[pvtpoint2010]

I feel your pain...

I think the tattoo machine would be a good idea ....It will serve 2 issues ...1 will fill the white dots/scar with Acell and 2 it will needle the scar tissue ...many feel that this alone is a good treatment for scars even without Acell........

When i asked Cooley about it he looked at me as if i were crazy and shruged it off...c;;9