topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Hi Nasser, I will take some more photos at the end of the day at post them.
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Nasser
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Thanks topccat.
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Dazzster26
Valued member
Hi Topcat
All i can say is that this is another amazing story emotional and uplifting ,I am 51 years old and I had a HT
in Feb , I just feel so grateful for what I have got, I know thats selfish but without stories like yours and others on this Forum i would take it for granted, now i have learned to read examples and look carefully , I have no regrets were I went but I know a little more now BHR are consistant with outstanding results , and again another brilliant result for you, well done mate for having the courage to keep going all the best
Daz
All i can say is that this is another amazing story emotional and uplifting ,I am 51 years old and I had a HT
in Feb , I just feel so grateful for what I have got, I know thats selfish but without stories like yours and others on this Forum i would take it for granted, now i have learned to read examples and look carefully , I have no regrets were I went but I know a little more now BHR are consistant with outstanding results , and again another brilliant result for you, well done mate for having the courage to keep going all the best
Daz
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Hi Nasser I took the below photograph in sunlight today and have also posted the original extraction pattern which is a fairly small area since I don t really have a heavy beard. I had approximately 500 fue extracted from the chin over 2 procedures. I don t have any pitting and maybe what you are seeing are just a few old acne scars but other than that the area looks very good. If I thought I was going to get pitting I certainly would not be going back for more. I value both my face and I do have the need to take my shirt in the gym when I get into the ring so the chest is of equal importance.
There is a little redness above the extraction area but that would be due to dry skin. Sometimes I need to back off on the coffee as it dehydrates my skin but it is my one indulgence. I also need to back off on the protein sometimes as it is one of my favorite macro nutrients. I am slowing changing the percentages in that area and should be more around 70% fat with the balance at around 20% protein and 10% carbs. Let also say that I am very aware of my body and subtle changes as I am a creature of habit.
Something that really brings out the oil in my skin and reduces dryness is to eat almonds. But the problem here in the States is that most of the almonds are pasteurized and treated with a fungicide. This is to help the big producers make more money as they can basically sell you shit and not have to worry about getting sick. It also puts an undue hardship on the small producer as they can t afford to have those systems in place, they get crushed with costs and are slowly put out of business. To quote Toby Keith Will put a boot in your ass, it s the American way But they fought it all the way to the Supreme Court and now I can get those almonds but only through the mail as they are coming from California and purchasing them from Europe which would be the alternative is too expensive. Another reason I look forward to going to Brussels. You can tell the eggs are natural as when the cook behind the counter at the hotel breaks open that shell the yolk is deep orange in color. It means the chickens were eating lots of grass, bugs, worms and pecking at any dead animal flesh they could find. That s called nutrient dense and despite all the bullshit that is constantly repeated to make Lipitor the number one selling drug in the world cholesterol is needed to aid in wound healing something that I think is important when you are having surgery.
This brings me to another point sometimes the Europeans are often less concerned with money and more concerned with the welfare of the people? Recently on another forum a doctor bragged about how he can use Acell here in the States but it s not approved in Europe. He then went on to make a derogatory comment about one of the doctors, very unprofessional but also very typical. Well maybe it s not approved because they don t feel it s been thoroughly tested. They also don t pasteurize their almonds or allow GMO food from the States into their country. Having a plant that has been genetically altered to have the pesticide in the plant might make some companies more money but how about testing it before you start feeding it to people.
I will take some more pictures in a few weeks as I just introduced almonds back into my diet. I also just added another picture showing some red areas of my neck but it is just dry skin and actually is much more noticeble in pictures for some reasons. This is making me late but it's important to me so thanks again for asking.
There is a little redness above the extraction area but that would be due to dry skin. Sometimes I need to back off on the coffee as it dehydrates my skin but it is my one indulgence. I also need to back off on the protein sometimes as it is one of my favorite macro nutrients. I am slowing changing the percentages in that area and should be more around 70% fat with the balance at around 20% protein and 10% carbs. Let also say that I am very aware of my body and subtle changes as I am a creature of habit.
Something that really brings out the oil in my skin and reduces dryness is to eat almonds. But the problem here in the States is that most of the almonds are pasteurized and treated with a fungicide. This is to help the big producers make more money as they can basically sell you shit and not have to worry about getting sick. It also puts an undue hardship on the small producer as they can t afford to have those systems in place, they get crushed with costs and are slowly put out of business. To quote Toby Keith Will put a boot in your ass, it s the American way But they fought it all the way to the Supreme Court and now I can get those almonds but only through the mail as they are coming from California and purchasing them from Europe which would be the alternative is too expensive. Another reason I look forward to going to Brussels. You can tell the eggs are natural as when the cook behind the counter at the hotel breaks open that shell the yolk is deep orange in color. It means the chickens were eating lots of grass, bugs, worms and pecking at any dead animal flesh they could find. That s called nutrient dense and despite all the bullshit that is constantly repeated to make Lipitor the number one selling drug in the world cholesterol is needed to aid in wound healing something that I think is important when you are having surgery.
This brings me to another point sometimes the Europeans are often less concerned with money and more concerned with the welfare of the people? Recently on another forum a doctor bragged about how he can use Acell here in the States but it s not approved in Europe. He then went on to make a derogatory comment about one of the doctors, very unprofessional but also very typical. Well maybe it s not approved because they don t feel it s been thoroughly tested. They also don t pasteurize their almonds or allow GMO food from the States into their country. Having a plant that has been genetically altered to have the pesticide in the plant might make some companies more money but how about testing it before you start feeding it to people.
I will take some more pictures in a few weeks as I just introduced almonds back into my diet. I also just added another picture showing some red areas of my neck but it is just dry skin and actually is much more noticeble in pictures for some reasons. This is making me late but it's important to me so thanks again for asking.
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Nasser
Member
Thanks toppcat , appreciate it.
It looks very good though I wish you put up more clear photos as these are blurred.
It looks very good though I wish you put up more clear photos as these are blurred.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser I will put up a few more pictures in the next few days. I was in a hurry as I was running late for work and I don't think many know just how difficult it can sometimes be to take close up pictures. But I will post more. I need to purchase some fresh batteries.
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topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser any redness is dry skin which kind of comes and goes. Right now I am working outside a lot so with the wind and the sun my skin does get a little weather beaten but as I wrote I do intend to up my fat intake and I should probably use some moisturizing cream. It doesn't concern me to much so I tend to neglect it.
There were approximately 500 fue extracted from about 2 sq inches.
There were approximately 500 fue extracted from about 2 sq inches.
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Nasser
Member
Thanks topccat that is really helpful. it looks good and no one can tell you had anything done. What do you think ? are you comfortable with how the beard looks after the procedure ?
I don't see white dots as well but not sure why when I had an online consultation with a good fue surgeon, i was told that I will have white dots if I wet shave. I have tanned skin by the way so maybe this is the reason.
I really appreciate you putting up the photos. Huge thanks to you
I don't see white dots as well but not sure why when I had an online consultation with a good fue surgeon, i was told that I will have white dots if I wet shave. I have tanned skin by the way so maybe this is the reason.
I really appreciate you putting up the photos. Huge thanks to you
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser the one word to describe how I feel is excited But obviously I only have so much beard hair and the rest of my donor is very limited but any improvement is a blessing.
Nasser if you go back and view some of the other pictures in my thread you will see that I am very tanned and there is no visible signs of white dotting. That was very important to me as I make sure to load my vitamin D reserves in the summer, raise my serotonin levels and also raise my testosterone levels by either working or spending time in the sun. My next procedure is in May so I will have to skip that this summer but I already have spent plenty of time outdoors and I still have at 5-6 more weeks.
Nasser if you go back and view some of the other pictures in my thread you will see that I am very tanned and there is no visible signs of white dotting. That was very important to me as I make sure to load my vitamin D reserves in the summer, raise my serotonin levels and also raise my testosterone levels by either working or spending time in the sun. My next procedure is in May so I will have to skip that this summer but I already have spent plenty of time outdoors and I still have at 5-6 more weeks.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser my own life experience has taught me to investigate thoroughly and don t necessarily take someone s advice because they where a white coat and have a piece of paper hanging on the wall. Too many have a feeling of self importance and they develop an arrogance that they rarely like to have questioned.
The doctor that told you that you would experience white dotting may be 100% right. In his hands there very well could be white dotting, high transaction rate, poor extraction pattern, over harvesting, low yield, etc. You see that is how the hair transplant industry works. They like to leave things out so they are not necessarily lying in fact they are still be truthful. But they are telling you what benefits them and not you and that certainly does not help you make and informed decision.
I could give you so many examples in other areas but I will use one on nutrition. Does meat cause cancer? Well if you eat meat the way it s raised for profit the answer would probably be yes. It is laced with estrogenic hormones, antibiotics, very high in the omega 6 fat and outside of not only feeding an unnatural diet of grains it is also fed other dead animal parts except now they have to leave the other cow parts out to avoid mad cow disease but the rest of it is still being used. Unusable parts from goats, chickens, pigs, dogs, cats, road kill etc. Now would something like this cause cancer my guess would be yes, very probable. Especially when the same product is heated to very high temperatures producing lots of advance glycation end products.The meat is so polluted that they now want to irradiate it to make it safe to eat. Similar to what they do with milk. Don't solve the problem the right way and make less profit.
But now if we were to look at meat that is not produced for as much profit the story is completely different. The cow eats only a diet of grass and the meat is very high in the omega 3 fatty acid along with being very high in conjugated linoleic acid another potent cancer fighter while also being a great repartioning agent forcing the body to put on more muscle and burn more fat. When the meat is cooked very slowly on low heat, think soups and stews with the meat still on the bone all the glycosaminoglycans are released which help stimulate the growth of new healthy collagen and repair damaged joints. BTW the supplement manufacturers don t like this type of information either.
There is a point to all of this. The guy selling you the crap is not going to tell you about the guy selling the other better product that you need to learn on your own.
You are welcome to show my picture to that same doctor and ask him his thoughts.
The doctor that told you that you would experience white dotting may be 100% right. In his hands there very well could be white dotting, high transaction rate, poor extraction pattern, over harvesting, low yield, etc. You see that is how the hair transplant industry works. They like to leave things out so they are not necessarily lying in fact they are still be truthful. But they are telling you what benefits them and not you and that certainly does not help you make and informed decision.
I could give you so many examples in other areas but I will use one on nutrition. Does meat cause cancer? Well if you eat meat the way it s raised for profit the answer would probably be yes. It is laced with estrogenic hormones, antibiotics, very high in the omega 6 fat and outside of not only feeding an unnatural diet of grains it is also fed other dead animal parts except now they have to leave the other cow parts out to avoid mad cow disease but the rest of it is still being used. Unusable parts from goats, chickens, pigs, dogs, cats, road kill etc. Now would something like this cause cancer my guess would be yes, very probable. Especially when the same product is heated to very high temperatures producing lots of advance glycation end products.The meat is so polluted that they now want to irradiate it to make it safe to eat. Similar to what they do with milk. Don't solve the problem the right way and make less profit.
But now if we were to look at meat that is not produced for as much profit the story is completely different. The cow eats only a diet of grass and the meat is very high in the omega 3 fatty acid along with being very high in conjugated linoleic acid another potent cancer fighter while also being a great repartioning agent forcing the body to put on more muscle and burn more fat. When the meat is cooked very slowly on low heat, think soups and stews with the meat still on the bone all the glycosaminoglycans are released which help stimulate the growth of new healthy collagen and repair damaged joints. BTW the supplement manufacturers don t like this type of information either.
There is a point to all of this. The guy selling you the crap is not going to tell you about the guy selling the other better product that you need to learn on your own.
You are welcome to show my picture to that same doctor and ask him his thoughts.
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Levrais
Valued member
Nasser, I second what topcat said. I've also had bht with the same doc as he has. I haven't seen any white dots and also have tan skin. I've seen another patient in person who had over 1,400 bht with no visible evidence of scarring or dotting. Hopefully you will talk to a few docs and do some in person consults to make sure you're getting the best advice.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser here is a picture of the same beard area 4 days post op. As I have often posted I went out for dinner and walked around Brussels the next day and I felt completely comfortable. Not one person so much as took a second look at my beard area where the fue's were extracted. This is why I feel that small hand punches are superior. It's from my own research and my own experience. It's not something that I just pull out of thin air.
It's also why I often post that in my opinion Acell is complete marketing bullshit and hype. The human body has been using foods to help heal the body for thousands of years. Maybe patients should consider foods that are nutrient dense and heal the body as opposed to abusing it and looking for the magic bullet. But clinics can't make money by suggesting foods plus they wouldn't even know where to begin and they often no nothing about the subject.
I will put up my healing speed against Acell any day.
It's also why I often post that in my opinion Acell is complete marketing bullshit and hype. The human body has been using foods to help heal the body for thousands of years. Maybe patients should consider foods that are nutrient dense and heal the body as opposed to abusing it and looking for the magic bullet. But clinics can't make money by suggesting foods plus they wouldn't even know where to begin and they often no nothing about the subject.
I will put up my healing speed against Acell any day.
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Nasser
Member
Thanks toppcat and levrais.
toppcat I saw one of your post in another forum. I didn't mean you have scars it was the blurred photos which were playing games in mind and I imagined there were pits but after seeing your clear photos I can't tell you have anything done in your beard area , this is amazing !! and the photo above was just 4 days post operation, it healed very well.
The doctor who told me I will get white dots is one of the top doctors in Europe but I haven't seen a single bht from him. I thought it was because of my dark skin that he expects I would get white dots if I wet shaved my beard.
toppcat I saw one of your post in another forum. I didn't mean you have scars it was the blurred photos which were playing games in mind and I imagined there were pits but after seeing your clear photos I can't tell you have anything done in your beard area , this is amazing !! and the photo above was just 4 days post operation, it healed very well.
The doctor who told me I will get white dots is one of the top doctors in Europe but I haven't seen a single bht from him. I thought it was because of my dark skin that he expects I would get white dots if I wet shaved my beard.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser my postings on other message boards was not meant to be offensive to you but informative for others. I have a very blunt posting and speaking style on certain subjects that I feel very strongly about so please don t be offended.
I suppose being born on the south side of Chicago doesn t help. We do have a way of telling people hey pal you are full shit when in fact they are not being completely honest. So couple that with my experiences of the last 25 years and this is what you get.
I am actually very mild mannered, polite and respectful in person. But I m too old to put up with any crap and I see too much of it in the HT business.
Too some my postings might seem obsessive but what you are seeing is discipline, principles and work ethic something I have had my whole life. If I think something is important I m sure to make the time for it.
I hope the information helps you.
I suppose being born on the south side of Chicago doesn t help. We do have a way of telling people hey pal you are full shit when in fact they are not being completely honest. So couple that with my experiences of the last 25 years and this is what you get.
I am actually very mild mannered, polite and respectful in person. But I m too old to put up with any crap and I see too much of it in the HT business.
Too some my postings might seem obsessive but what you are seeing is discipline, principles and work ethic something I have had my whole life. If I think something is important I m sure to make the time for it.
I hope the information helps you.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser I should add, test a small area first and don t even think about going to someone who has never performed the operation before. This is not something to be taken lightly. I have written that so many times I assume most already know it.
Taking photos is not that simple and I need to learn to allow the camera to focus by pressing the button halfway and then a second time to snap the picture. But I can understand you questioning it and that is a good thing. It is something I would be all over someone else for if they did the same.
And as I wrote many of these clinics and doctors are being truthful but they are usually speaking only about themselves. Another half truth I often hear is that FUE results in low yield. I m sure in their hands it certainly does result in low yield. But my experience was quite different and the yield was exceptionally high and although I do not have the ability to count each individual hair I know my scalp well enough along with the numbers to say it was close to 100%.
Taking photos is not that simple and I need to learn to allow the camera to focus by pressing the button halfway and then a second time to snap the picture. But I can understand you questioning it and that is a good thing. It is something I would be all over someone else for if they did the same.
And as I wrote many of these clinics and doctors are being truthful but they are usually speaking only about themselves. Another half truth I often hear is that FUE results in low yield. I m sure in their hands it certainly does result in low yield. But my experience was quite different and the yield was exceptionally high and although I do not have the ability to count each individual hair I know my scalp well enough along with the numbers to say it was close to 100%.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Nasser the fact that you have dark skin should make your approach even more cautious. It is fairly well known that dark skin is more prone to keloid type scarring. But considering a doctor that has no experience in BHT is a no go. He should not even be on your list.
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Looking forward to my next procedure with BHR in a few weeks. I will update everyone before I leave but in the mean time I have been stocking up the medicine cabinet LOL 
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RichTea
Valued member
Lol its going to get windy in your house
topccat29
29 year HT veteran
Richtea actually all that sulfur is not a problem and very beneficial. Most digestive distress is from combining the wrong types of foods or just too many foods which is not normal but considered normal in today s society. Eating one specific food or one specific macronutrient rarely is ever a problem but most simply do not do this and instead reach for a bottle of medication when they start to feel ill.
Sorry for being too serious I know your comment was just light hearted humor.
Sorry for being too serious I know your comment was just light hearted humor.
RichTea
Valued member
no all your info is good I am no longer going to combine my protein with carbs and have a fart free day
