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Topical Fin, a little scared?

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Patro1995

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hey, i've had a hair transplant for a year and a half, the effect is not perfect, but it can be. I can see that old natural hair is getting thinner and empty spaces. I'm afraid of finasteride tablets and I bought topical I have the whole bottle but I'm also afraid to start, did any of you have any side effects from topical? I am afraid of depression or other things best regards.photos of hair in previous posts.
because I only had a bend transplant
 
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NZK Medical

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hey, i've had a hair transplant for a year and a half, the effect is not perfect, but it can be. I can see that old natural hair is getting thinner and empty spaces. I'm afraid of finasteride tablets and I bought topical I have the whole bottle but I'm also afraid to start, did any of you have any side effects from topical? I am afraid of depression or other things best regards.photos of hair in previous posts.
because I only had a bend transplant

You should always take personal advice from your medical practitioner on matters such as this. There are alternatives such as minoxidil, laser light therapy as well as a number of supplements that while anecdotal in evidence. Are used to combat hair loss, such as saw palmetto, Africana pigneum, biotin, and zinc. The use of topical finasteride does not have the same studies as oral finasteride. The National Library of Medicine has an abstract on the safety of topical finasteride. Titled - Topical finasteride for male and female pattern hair loss: Is it a safe and effective alternative? you may wish to look at. But, that would not replace having a chat with your GP or alike. Good luck.
 
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Patro1995

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the most afraid of getting depressed, although it's just a fluid, maybe every other day and small doses?
 
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Ronnie

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Hi

Hair meds come with a definite learning curve and both Finasteride and Minoxidil have potential side effects, which is seems you are aware of. I can give you the benefit of my experience but obviously it could all be different for you.

I commenced taking meds on 1st January 2022 and I do feel they have helped me achieve some gains. I started using Regaine foam (Minoxidil) twice daily and 1mg Finasteride daily. I had zero negative reaction to Minoxidil and initially thought I was fine with Finasteride, but then started to worry I was seeing side effects so reduced to 1mg 3x per week. In the end I was sufficiently concerned that I switched to using a Finasteride+Minoxidil combined topical formula and I’ve been very happy since then that it causes zero side effects. I’ve also added in 1.25mg of oral Minoxidil daily and have zero side effects from that too.

Everything I’ve heard suggests that oral meds are likely to give a stronger effect, but are also likely to bring with them a greater chance of side effects. I’m very keen to get the best outcomes so am very tempted to give oral Finasteride another chance, but am wary of side effects. I’m still not sure if they were causing any or whether it is the fear of them that is the problem. Like I say though, I definitely experience no sides from the topical version.

I’m not a medical practitioner and don’t know if you have reasons to suspect that topical Finasteride will cause particular issues for you, such as the depression you mentioned? If you have a history of depression and you worry that this will cause it, then I guess you’re in a similar situation to me, in that just the thought that you might experience the sides you’re fearful of might well induce them. For me a key difference is that sides from oral Finasteride are fairly widely reported, whereas I’ve not really seen any posts from people experiencing sides from topical Finasteride? The sample size for topical isn’t great though for sure so there’s definitely little in the way of conclusive evidence.

I think the stark truth is, from what I’ve seen at least, is that the impact of any of these meds is going to be to a degree unpredictable and there’s nothing I nor anyone else can do to guarantee a certain outcome, either positive with hair regrowth or negative in terms of sides. It’s definitely a bit of a test and learn approach for everyone. On that basis the only way to know if you’ll get sides is to give them a go. The biggest bit of known information is how you are as a person and you know better than anyone how you might respond emotionally to taking meds, ie is simply the fact of taking them likely to lead to depression or some other emotional impact? If you don’t think that is an issue and you’re concerned only with them directly causing you sides, then I’d suggest giving them a go as that’s the only way you’ll know, but I am not a doctor so take that for what it is! All I’d say is that I’ve read around a lot on topical Finasteride and have seen little to no feedback on side effects, unlike oral Finasteride, so that’s about as much reassurance as you are likely to find on the subject.

Good luck
 
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Im new here

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I have been on and off oral finasteride and I can honestly say the worst thing anyone wanting to stop hair loss can do is to read about the side effects.

from reading what you have said above if I was you I wouldn't bother. It seems you are already so frightened of "potential sides" you are almost believing you have them already just by having brought the bottle and not even used it yet.

Topical studies are not yet big enough to be conclusive either way. The oral studies are very very thorough and many of them blind studies where participants were not told of potential sides, this means they could only report side effects than were real.

The side effect rate reported in controlled studies is around 2% of people. If you believe all the people reporting them on forums nowadays its more like only 2% of people don't get them which is utter tosh. Because people are expecting them they end up believing they have them. Its all psychological I think.

That's not to say you wont get any. You could be in that 2% that do. My point is only you will know and if you are not going into it with an open mind (which it doesn't look like you are) then it will be a waste of your time
 
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Patro1995

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Hi

Hair meds come with a definite learning curve and both Finasteride and Minoxidil have potential side effects, which is seems you are aware of. I can give you the benefit of my experience but obviously it could all be different for you.

I commenced taking meds on 1st January 2022 and I do feel they have helped me achieve some gains. I started using Regaine foam (Minoxidil) twice daily and 1mg Finasteride daily. I had zero negative reaction to Minoxidil and initially thought I was fine with Finasteride, but then started to worry I was seeing side effects so reduced to 1mg 3x per week. In the end I was sufficiently concerned that I switched to using a Finasteride+Minoxidil combined topical formula and I’ve been very happy since then that it causes zero side effects. I’ve also added in 1.25mg of oral Minoxidil daily and have zero side effects from that too.

Everything I’ve heard suggests that oral meds are likely to give a stronger effect, but are also likely to bring with them a greater chance of side effects. I’m very keen to get the best outcomes so am very tempted to give oral Finasteride another chance, but am wary of side effects. I’m still not sure if they were causing any or whether it is the fear of them that is the problem. Like I say though, I definitely experience no sides from the topical version.

I’m not a medical practitioner and don’t know if you have reasons to suspect that topical Finasteride will cause particular issues for you, such as the depression you mentioned? If you have a history of depression and you worry that this will cause it, then I guess you’re in a similar situation to me, in that just the thought that you might experience the sides you’re fearful of might well induce them. For me a key difference is that sides from oral Finasteride are fairly widely reported, whereas I’ve not really seen any posts from people experiencing sides from topical Finasteride? The sample size for topical isn’t great though for sure so there’s definitely little in the way of conclusive evidence.

I think the stark truth is, from what I’ve seen at least, is that the impact of any of these meds is going to be to a degree unpredictable and there’s nothing I nor anyone else can do to guarantee a certain outcome, either positive with hair regrowth or negative in terms of sides. It’s definitely a bit of a test and learn approach for everyone. On that basis the only way to know if you’ll get sides is to give them a go. The biggest bit of known information is how you are as a person and you know better than anyone how you might respond emotionally to taking meds, ie is simply the fact of taking them likely to lead to depression or some other emotional impact? If you don’t think that is an issue and you’re concerned only with them directly causing you sides, then I’d suggest giving them a go as that’s the only way you’ll know, but I am not a doctor so take that for what it is! All I’d say is that I’ve read around a lot on topical Finasteride and have seen little to no feedback on side effects, unlike oral Finasteride, so that’s about as much reassurance as you are likely to find on the subject.

Good luck
I'm supposed to be depressed, I still have neurosis, that's why I panic so much. but I know that if I lose my hair it will be even worse . all that's left is to try and calm down everyone says it's too low dose for side effects and depression, when I see problems, I can stop at any time. thank you for your dedication.
 
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Patro1995

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I have been on and off oral finasteride and I can honestly say the worst thing anyone wanting to stop hair loss can do is to read about the side effects.

from reading what you have said above if I was you I wouldn't bother. It seems you are already so frightened of "potential sides" you are almost believing you have them already just by having brought the bottle and not even used it yet.

Topical studies are not yet big enough to be conclusive either way. The oral studies are very very thorough and many of them blind studies where participants were not told of potential sides, this means they could only report side effects than were real.

The side effect rate reported in controlled studies is around 2% of people. If you believe all the people reporting them on forums nowadays its more like only 2% of people don't get them which is utter tosh. Because people are expecting them they end up believing they have them. Its all psychological I think.

That's not to say you wont get any. You could be in that 2% that do. My point is only you will know and if you are not going into it with an open mind (which it doesn't look like you are) then it will be a waste of your time
I have something like that from "farmacieandora" is a pharmacy. I pissed two days ago, today I'm a bit sad, I don't feel like anything, or I'm just making things up and being oversensitive, is it possible? I sprayed it on my head four times
received_764966808242843.jpeg
 
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Patro1995

member
Hi

Hair meds come with a definite learning curve and both Finasteride and Minoxidil have potential side effects, which is seems you are aware of. I can give you the benefit of my experience but obviously it could all be different for you.

I commenced taking meds on 1st January 2022 and I do feel they have helped me achieve some gains. I started using Regaine foam (Minoxidil) twice daily and 1mg Finasteride daily. I had zero negative reaction to Minoxidil and initially thought I was fine with Finasteride, but then started to worry I was seeing side effects so reduced to 1mg 3x per week. In the end I was sufficiently concerned that I switched to using a Finasteride+Minoxidil combined topical formula and I’ve been very happy since then that it causes zero side effects. I’ve also added in 1.25mg of oral Minoxidil daily and have zero side effects from that too.

Everything I’ve heard suggests that oral meds are likely to give a stronger effect, but are also likely to bring with them a greater chance of side effects. I’m very keen to get the best outcomes so am very tempted to give oral Finasteride another chance, but am wary of side effects. I’m still not sure if they were causing any or whether it is the fear of them that is the problem. Like I say though, I definitely experience no sides from the topical version.

I’m not a medical practitioner and don’t know if you have reasons to suspect that topical Finasteride will cause particular issues for you, such as the depression you mentioned? If you have a history of depression and you worry that this will cause it, then I guess you’re in a similar situation to me, in that just the thought that you might experience the sides you’re fearful of might well induce them. For me a key difference is that sides from oral Finasteride are fairly widely reported, whereas I’ve not really seen any posts from people experiencing sides from topical Finasteride? The sample size for topical isn’t great though for sure so there’s definitely little in the way of conclusive evidence.

I think the stark truth is, from what I’ve seen at least, is that the impact of any of these meds is going to be to a degree unpredictable and there’s nothing I nor anyone else can do to guarantee a certain outcome, either positive with hair regrowth or negative in terms of sides. It’s definitely a bit of a test and learn approach for everyone. On that basis the only way to know if you’ll get sides is to give them a go. The biggest bit of known information is how you are as a person and you know better than anyone how you might respond emotionally to taking meds, ie is simply the fact of taking them likely to lead to depression or some other emotional impact? If you don’t think that is an issue and you’re concerned only with them directly causing you sides, then I’d suggest giving them a go as that’s the only way you’ll know, but I am not a doctor so take that for what it is! All I’d say is that I’ve read around a lot on topical Finasteride and have seen little to no feedback on side effects, unlike oral Finasteride, so that’s about as much reassurance as you are likely to find on the subject.

Good luck
I have something like that from "farmacieandora" is a pharmacy. I pissed two days ago, today I'm a bit sad, I don't feel like anything, or I'm just making things up and being oversensitive, is it possible? I sprayed it on my head four times
received_764966808242843.jpeg
 
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