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Donor hair zone thinning

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Donor Zone

valued member
Unfortunately this is a topic not often talked about even though it can have implications for your hair transplant. Approximately 7 years ago I underwent two procedures Fue and Strip to recreate my fading hairline with excellent results, I could not have been happier. I had a smart new look, confidence and a general feel good factor.
To my dismay over the past 6 months I've noticed my hairline and the surrounding area thinning again. Some of these areas were all transplanted grafts so I know they have become susceptible to the dreaded DHT. My area known as the safe zone is noticeably thinner too. I have become aware that over time most of us will lose hair as it naturally thins out or in other cases DHT destroys it, if I'd known this years ago I may have opted for a different approach. I'm taking Finasteride ( 8 year veteran ) which could be losing its effectiveness although this should have no bearing on safe zone grafts.
Now I'm in a pickle, should I try another procedure hoping it will last ? Or do I bite the bullet and let nature take its course ?
I'd strongly recomend anyone contemplating having a hair transplant procedure to research thoroughly as I never thought I would be in the situation I now find myself.

 
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toni

Member
You raise some valid points. I found the following topic that may help you.

http://www.hairlossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=30&forum_id=2
 
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Donor Zone

valued member
Thanks for the link.
Anyone have an opinion on this ?
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
I think a doctor that has ethics might tell the patient what they might not want to hear which could very well be less potential for the donor then the patient had hoped for. If the patient is lucky he got that advice from the start. But then again some will get that advice from the beginning and just keep moving on until they find the number that they want.

Short term it will work out as we have seen over and over again most especially with the docs posting the low thick dense model type showcase results. But many of the patients come back 5 years later totally devastated.

Don €™t blame yourself it's all normal. We all hope and sometimes that same hope is used against us in many areas. Cancer patients all have hope as a good example so they become easy targets for revenue generation. Many find this hard to believe just like those that do not believe a balding person would be taken advantage of..........it happens.


What can you do now? Very hard to say €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦maybe body/beard hair to replenish the donor but that in a very long road but it could be an option. Or sometimes it €™s just a matter of waiting until a better solution comes along.
 
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Donor Zone

valued member
Thanks for the reply. I'm not overly concerned with the donor area appearance, more so my hairline where transplanted grafts from the safe zone have been lost thus creating gaps. I may risk a small fue session to fill the gaps, then wait it out to see how my hair progresses.
I found this article on a doctors site.

The effects of FUE and FUT on the donor zone are not so straightforward. Both procedures alter this region of the scalp, but in different ways and with different consequences. In FUE, the donor zone is thinned by directly removing follicular units. The harvesting leaves hundreds to thousands of tiny, white, round scars. In FUT via strip harvesting, the donor zone is thinned as the scalp is stretched during the closure. The result is a single, long (hopefully thin) scar. A concern with both is that, as baldness progresses and/or as hair quality changes, the scars may become visible over time.
With FUT, if the hair is kept very short, the scar will be immediately visible, but if it is kept long, then even over time the scar should be easily camouflaged with hair. This is, of course, providing that the incision is properly placed in the midpoint of the permanent donor area and the scar is not excessively wide.
In contrast, the advantage of FUE is that the hair can be worn fairly short. This is its great appeal, particularly in younger patients. However, since the area of harvesting is generally five times the area of a donor strip for the equivalent number of grafts, this necessitates a donor area five times as wide (i.e., 5x as high if the length is maximized in both). Unfortunately, this may not bode well for the patient if the safe donor area turns out to be smaller than one had anticipated.
If a person evolves into a Norwood VII with a thin donor zone, then the scarring of FUE €”although quite inconspicuous when the person had hair €”will become visible over the top of the fringe. An additional problem, of course, is that the transplanted hair that was harvested from this area will disappear.
If a person €™s donor hair thins significantly, then any scarring (whether it is the linear scar of FUT or the small, round scars of FUE) may become visible. Therefore, in either procedure, having a relative degree of confidence in your assessment of the ultimate fate of the donor zone is critical to the planning of the surgery. The problem is that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to identify the safe, permanent donor zone when a person is young. In fact, at a young age, it is not always possible to determine with certainty if ANY of one €™s hair will be permanent or what the ultimate quality of that hair will be.
The simple solution is to not operate on younger patients regardless of the technique. But what constitutes a €œyounger € patient? As a general rule, when treating androgenetis Alopecia, I consider 25 to be the (somewhat arbitrary) minimum age for Hair transplant surgery. Before this age, densitometry used to measure miniaturization is quite unreliable and, therefore, the degree of ultimate balding is very hard to predict.
Patients who bald at a very young age are prone to develop more extensive hair loss than those who thin later in life. Therefore, their donor supply may not be sufficient for a cosmetically successful hair transplant. For example, if a person is to eventuate into an advanced Nirwood class VI or VII, there often is not sufficient donor hair for adequate crown coverage. Restoring a mature hairline, adding hair to the mid-scalp and providing some light coverage to the crown, would be perfectly acceptable for a 40- or 50-year-old. However, the 20-year-old with an incomplete hair transplant and a still balding crown might, in retrospect, have preferred to have just shaved his head. After surgery, this option would be gone.
It is important to stress that the earlier hair loss begins, the more extensive it is likely to become. In so many cases, medication, rather than surgery, is the best initial choice for younger patients. It gives them time to think about their options and to adjust to the fact that, regardless of surgery, they will not have a full head of hair or the low hairline that they once had. It also gives them the opportunity to seek the opinion of family and friends. In all cases involving younger patients, the decision to have surgery should be well thought out and never done in haste.
 
topccat29

topccat29

29 year HT veteran
I agree it €™s a good article. Most of the really young guys fall into this trap of worrying about losing their hair and it creating lost opportunities with members of the opposite sex. Their argument goes what is important is now €¦ €¦ €¦ €¦.I need hair now and I don €™t care about what happens down the road 20 years from now. Some of the behavior borders on sheer recklessness and one only needs to read a topicals forum to really start to understand.


But we all of course know our wants and desires change over time. What we wanted at 10 was not what we wanted at 15 nor what we wanted at 15 was what we wanted when we were 20 and on and on it goes. Very hard to get this point across to a young guy.


It €™s like spending all one €™s college money when they are 16-17 on cars/clothes because that is what matters now. Meanwhile if they are working at McDonalds when they are 30 that €™s going to matter to that same person and those same members of the opposite sex. More time should probably be spent explaining some of this to those same guys so if and when they make a decision it €™s a good long term decision.

It €™s seems like much of the industry needs to have ethics forced upon them as they simply can €™t do it on their own. Many just lack common sense and personally I find myself saying what kind of imbecile would advise someone in a way that long term would turn out to be negative.


Sometimes advice is often better given by the hard nosed person even if we might not like it and many of us can see that as we look back on our own lives if we have lived long enough. They usually had our best interest in mind as opposed to the smiley faced guy. I think the smiley faced guy advice is starting to wear thin in the hair transplant industry.

 
bullitnut

bullitnut

4 awesome repairs with SMG
Something I've noticed when looking at people's Hairloss when out and about is that some people's donor areas seem to thin more at the sides whilst the back stays thick, this could potentially cause problems with scars being visible too if it happens later in life....have you any pics Donor to show us your hairline bud?
 
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Donor Zone

valued member
I read stories of people who lost hair quickly and others where it's over a longer period of time making me think it's near impossible to predict how you will progress.
Scars becoming visible happens.
 
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Donor Zone

valued member
Popping on to provide a quick update. I opted for FUE hair transplant surgery with Vinci Clinic as they gave me a good deal, plus I met two former patients who looked great. I had just over 900 grafts transplanted to the hair line area plus I had SMP into one area of my strip donor scar from another clinic which had stretched a few centimetres.

I`m coming up to 9 months post operative with what I believe most of my growth as it looks really good, my hair although still thin has an even all over look which is natural and looks good. I still have 3 months growth and maturing to go but I`m happy as things are, I`m thinking I`ve had all my growth.

I`d like to thank the forum and Vinci Clinic for the help and advice received.

Hope everyone has a great festive season and a hairier New Year.
 
Bigmac

Bigmac

Administrator
Staff member
Good to hear the forum helped you and you're happy. It would be great if you could document your HT in the patient section.
All the best
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