FUE – The Hair Dr (Dr Arshad) – 2,671 grafts – 27/01/2021

[HTL33]

Any pics of donor area?

Hi Ian,

I had my hair cut to a grade 1 for the first time on Friday. I can see my scarring now but doesn’t bother me too much - my partner says my scarring is not noticeable unless close up and she prefers it. When I have a grade 2 you cannot see anything. I might try the 1.5 next.

I wasn’t on Finasteride due to personal choice at the time.

 

[Ian888]

Hi Ian,

I had my hair cut to a grade 1 for the first time on Friday. I can see my scarring now but doesn’t bother me too much - my partner says my scarring is not noticeable unless close up and she prefers it. When I have a grade 2 you cannot see anything. I might try the 1.5 next.
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I wasn’t on Finasteride due to personal choice at the time.

Good to see the donor area has recovered well… as you suggest grade 1.5 may be the best balance for you.
I hope you hairline gets thicker over the coming months …

 

[Dave_2022]

Another Ardhad result that is looking like it's not going to hit the mark????

@HTL33 you absolutely do still have time for the results to improve, and I'm sure they will improve somewhat but this is potentially another poor result from this doctor.
Have you liaised with the clinic?

I've commented before, and I'm raising the point again..... There are an alarming number of poor results coming from the Hair Dr - A quick search will find many on here.

If we were seeing this many poor results from a "hair mill" or a less well known clinic than I am sure that the general consensus would be to steer clear.

Do we now have enough failed results from this doctor to form an educated opinion that he is simply not producing results we would deem satisfactory on here?

 

[Ian888]

Another Ardhad result that is looking like it's not going to hit the mark????

@HTL33 you absolutely do still have time for the results to improve, and I'm sure they will improve somewhat but this is potentially another poor result from this doctor.
Have you liaised with the clinic?

I've commented before, and I'm raising the point again..... There are an alarming number of poor results coming from the Hair Dr - A quick search will find many on here.

If we were seeing this many poor results from a "hair mill" or a less well known clinic than I am sure that the general consensus would be to steer clear.

Do we now have enough failed results from this doctor to form an educated opinion that he is simply not producing results we would deem satisfactory on here?

Completely disagree.

Arshad seems to have more patient reported results on this forum than any other surgeon - many of them very happy with the process and outcome - quite a few of them needing a second pass - I agree.. But having yield/density issues is not an uncommon feature post hair transplant and in fact most people end up having more than one procedure in any case… the fact that from what I’ve read and seen on the threads here Arshad offers free of charge top up/second pass is a credit to him and he’s standing by his work … the problem with “hair mills” is that they just ignore patients once they have done the procedure and taken the money…

Your suggestions sound unbalanced and biased to me…!

 

[Baldingman23]

I agree with you @Ian888. Clinics that stand by their patients is very important when choosing a HT. Dr Arshad and Sommiya have been nothing but supportive since my HT and my top up is in a few weeks will will take my result from 90% perfect to 100% perfect and this is included within the price of the first HT.

@HTL33 you still have time for improvement. I saw big improvements around the 9th month mark. Hold in there buddy

 

[TBH]

Completely disagree.

Arshad seems to have more patient reported results on this forum than any other surgeon - many of them very happy with the process and outcome - quite a few of them needing a second pass - I agree.. But having yield/density issues is not an uncommon feature post hair transplant and in fact most people end up having more than one procedure in any case… the fact that from what I’ve read and seen on the threads here Arshad offers free of charge top up/second pass is a credit to him and he’s standing by his work … the problem with “hair mills” is that they just ignore patients once they have done the procedure and taken the money…

Your suggestions sound unbalanced and biased to me…!

Have you seen many of Dr Bisanga's patients undergoing second procedures?
I have heard of some doctor's doing second top up procedures and then putting that result up as the initial one, can create unrealistic expectations.

 

[Dave_2022]

I'm not doubting the Hair Dr standing by their patients and offering free top ups.
That I agree would not be given by hair mills and is certainly good aftercare, my point however is that there are a lot of recent patients here with sub par results and requiring top up procedures to correct the results from the initial surgery due to poor yields.
We do not see so many poor results from the likes of Bisanga, Hanson & Wong, Dr Reddy etc.
I'm not saying they never have a poor result but we've not seen a flurry of poor results from these clinics have we.
I'm not trying to bash the clinic but it is clear as day they there are more failed results than there should be lately.

 

[Ian888]

Have you seen many of Dr Bisanga's patients undergoing second procedures?
I have heard of some doctor's doing second top up procedures and then putting that result up as the initial one, can create unrealistic expectations.

All surgeons/clinics perform top ups not just Basinga or Arshad … etc
Results with hair transplant cannot be guaranteed at all especially if the individual is not on finasteride etc … having said that I don’t know if Basinga is topping up patients and putting that result as initial one but this would certainly be creating unrealistic expectations..!

 

[Ian888]

I'm not doubting the Hair Dr standing by their patients and offering free top ups.
That I agree would not be given by hair mills and is certainly good aftercare, my point however is that there are a lot of recent patients here with sub par results and requiring top up procedures to correct the results from the initial surgery due to poor yields.
We do not see so many poor results from the likes of Bisanga, Hanson & Wong, Dr Reddy etc.
I'm not saying they never have a poor result but we've not seen a flurry of poor results from these clinics have we.
I'm not trying to bash the clinic but it is clear as day they there are more failed results than there should be lately.

I’ve just done a quick search - the clinics you have mentioned in your post above have a fraction of the number of patient reported threads on here compared to Arshad … for example for Reddy I cannot even see one, so what your saying makes no sense - I am afraid…
Like I said in my opinion most people have more than one procedure in any case to achieve their desired result and expectations..

 

[HTL33]

Another Ardhad result that is looking like it's not going to hit the mark????

@HTL33 you absolutely do still have time for the results to improve, and I'm sure they will improve somewhat but this is potentially another poor result from this doctor.
Have you liaised with the clinic?

I've commented before, and I'm raising the point again..... There are an alarming number of poor results coming from the Hair Dr - A quick search will find many on here.

If we were seeing this many poor results from a "hair mill" or a less well known clinic than I am sure that the general consensus would be to steer clear.

Do we now have enough failed results from this doctor to form an educated opinion that he is simply not producing results we would deem satisfactory on here?

Hey Dave,

I am hoping for improvement but feel as though at this stage I am unlikely to be happy with the result, I do appreciate I need to wait at least the 12 months.

I have been into the clinic in person for a checkup at 7 months and the general message was to wait 12 months, it might surprise me how happy I am, and also that any top up I need would be free of charge. I am in contact each month with pictures.

I know you have expressed concern over a few posts and it’s nice to have the discussion and balance between the forum members! It does seem that poor results / slow growers have been more common over the period I had my transplant so of course I am concerned naturally.

 

[HTL33]

Thanks Ian and Baldmingman for your comments.

This is a big thing for me that I am supported beyond my hair transplant and this is definitely comforting.

The one thing I’d say is that I didn’t expect to need a top up, it wasn’t at all mentioned pre op and I made sure we went for enough grafts to pack the hairline densely. My expectation was one hair transplant and my ‘problems’ would be resolved.

It’s a massive journey, we all know how hair loss impacts our mental state, it will be tough to take if I need to go through the whole process again - with me wondering if it would be more of a success second time round if so.

 

[TBH]

All surgeons/clinics perform top ups not just Basinga or Arshad … etc
Results with hair transplant cannot be guaranteed at all especially if the individual is not on finasteride etc … having said that I don’t know if Basinga is topping up patients and putting that result as initial one but this would certainly be creating unrealistic expectations..!

Hi mate, no I wasn't saying Bisanga specifially does that (I'd be surprised seeing as he's one of the best in the world). I meant more that some other clinics do and it can lead to people to overestimate results...it's a bit of a minefield out there when it comes to hair transplants, and I think most of us did months if not years of research before getting it done!

 

[TBH]

Thanks Ian and Baldmingman for your comments.

This is a big thing for me that I am supported beyond my hair transplant and this is definitely comforting.

The one thing I’d say is that I didn’t expect to need a top up, it wasn’t at all mentioned pre op and I made sure we went for enough grafts to pack the hairline densely. My expectation was one hair transplant and my ‘problems’ would be resolved.

It’s a massive journey, we all know how hair loss impacts our mental state, it will be tough to take if I need to go through the whole process again - with me wondering if it would be more of a success second time round if so.

Have they advised you to use minoxidil on the transplanted areas?

I'm also going to be honest with you in that I think you will need a top-up. I was at the same stage as you and now 15 months on am going back in for a revision. Best to mentally start prepping imo. On the whole, out of all the good results I've seen on forums, you can tell that they were going to turn out fantastically by the 6 month mark.

Hopefully you are a late responder though!

 

[sl]

I am reticent to post on another's thread, but since we have been mentioned in it then I will reply.

Firstly to the patient here I do hope you see the improvement you are hoping for.

As for Dr.Bisanga and BHR Clinic, I have worked there since May 2009, so qualified to speak from my history and personal experience of patients and forums and I can say without any hesitation that we have never presented a case that has had a touch up as the original case, not once ever to my knowledge. We have a posting history on this forum well back to pre-2009 also so have had a lot of cases posted here by patients themselves and cases we post as a clinic whereby the patient provided the photos.

We are an international clinic and not domestic, so our client base is world-wide and they post on many forums and both English and non-English speaking.

Many of the cases we post are from actual live patient updates month by month and in real-time with zero input from us on the photos, angles, lights, and no involvement in their writing and testimony, non-paid and with zero incentives other than to give back and we have made and collated them to post on other forums as BHR Clinic but they are for the most part patient provided data and photos and evolution that we then make available to others such as this forum also and I will enclose a snapshot here of recent cases also that we have made to video.

Our pedigree with Dr.Bisanga goes back over 20 years and with more documented cases, articles, videos, educational content than most clinics and also with a host of clinics being birthed from Dr.Bisanga's training of the doctors and technicians who have gone onto open successful and thriving clinics also.

So, I hope not to hijack this thread but will leave here some recent cases from 5 to 10.5 months, virgin and repair and also patients and two BHR members, one being our rep and the other a doctor we trained who have also shared their 5 month updates.

None of the below needed any touch up. If a patient does, we will be honest about it, rest assured.

Recent 5 Months, patient is a hair transplant doctor with his own video and testimony talking:-

Recent 5 months, patient is our advisor who we repaired from another clinic.

Recent 5 month update, patient sent photos for us to use:-

Recent 6 months, patient sent photos.

Recent 7 Months, patient posted throughout and we used to make video:-

Recent 8 Months, patient posted throughout and we used to make video:-

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Recent 10 months repair, patient sent photos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPj4OYfwqeY&list=PL4A65E39203F79EF3&index=21

Recent 10.5 Months, patient posted throughout and we used to make video:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiQu2WT7ic&list=PL4A65E39203F79EF3&index=4&t=60s

As said, hope this clears it up and wishing you the best for your continued growth.
Stephen

 

[Ian888]

Thank you so much for this. It really is useful resource for those researching into hair transplant. However none of these videos/links are independently patient reported results - these are videos/pictures the clinic has put together … can you please share some recent forum threads where patients have independently reported the journey without influence from the clinic - I am sure there are many and will be useful to see. Thanks again.

 

[TBH]

I am reticent to post on another's thread, but since we have been mentioned in it then I will reply.

Firstly to the patient here I do hope you see the improvement you are hoping for.

As for Dr.Bisanga and BHR Clinic, I have worked there since May 2009, so qualified to speak from my history and personal experience of patients and forums and I can say without any hesitation that we have never presented a case that has had a touch up as the original case, not once ever to my knowledge. We have a posting history on this forum well back to pre-2009 also so have had a lot of cases posted here by patients themselves and cases we post as a clinic whereby the patient provided the photos.

We are an international clinic and not domestic, so our client base is world-wide and they post on many forums and both English and non-English speaking.

Many of the cases we post are from actual live patient updates month by month and in real-time with zero input from us on the photos, angles, lights, and no involvement in their writing and testimony, non-paid and with zero incentives other than to give back and we have made and collated them to post on other forums as BHR Clinic but they are for the most part patient provided data and photos and evolution that we then make available to others such as this forum also and I will enclose a snapshot here of recent cases also that we have made to video.

Our pedigree with Dr.Bisanga goes back over 20 years and with more documented cases, articles, videos, educational content than most clinics and also with a host of clinics being birthed from Dr.Bisanga's training of the doctors and technicians who have gone onto open successful and thriving clinics also.

So, I hope not to hijack this thread but will leave here some recent cases from 5 to 10.5 months, virgin and repair and also patients and two BHR members, one being our rep and the other a doctor we trained who have also shared their 5 month updates.

None of the below needed any touch up. If a patient does, we will be honest about it, rest assured.




As said, hope this clears it up and wishing you the best for your continued growth.
Stephen

Hi Steven, thanks for posting.
For the record, my two points were unrelated and I was not suggesting Dr Bisanga has ever presented a case with a touch up. My point was that I have never personally seen him do one and therefore was wondering if he ever needs to or if practically every transplant that he does is a success. I'm aware that the testimonials are fantastic!

The second point was more aimed at some of the more hair factory style clinics, particularly in Turkey, where the final result is often shown with product and possibly without revealing that the patient had to have 2 transplants to achieve the result. Whereas Dr Bisanga and Arshad show the results naturally in harsh lighting for a more realistic expectation of the results one can expect.

 

[sl]

Thank you for the feedback and glad it was helpful.

To respect forum etiquette and not cross linking to other forums, then please feel free to PM or contact Ian our rep on here who can sign-post you to the original posts from our patients. It was for this reason I linked on purpose to the videos not to the forum/s in question to respect this.

Dr.Kostis, first case, was shown at 5 months in the first video and his ongoing journey will be updated here and he will be posting updates himself:-

Hair Transplant Surgeon goes under the knife! Dr.Bisanga performs 2528 FUE + 200 BHFUE on Dr.Kostis! Rapid 5 months transformation & testimony!!

Posted on behalf of Dr.Kostis who will have his account open soon and have ownership of the thread..Enjoy. Hi to all forums users/readers, this is my first post and my pleasure also to share my own personal experience and hair transplant with you all. It is still early days but the result...

www.hairlossexperiences.com

The second video is Ian our rep who was a repair case and his personal journey is here and will be ongoing:-

Raphael84 - My Surgery - Dr. Bisanga BHR Clinic - 3466 Grafts - FUE 0 - 5 Months

In my own journey throughout the years and long before I was in my current role as patient advisor for Dr. Bisanga, I have spent many hours and found incredible value from hair loss forums. Being able to share frequent patient results from Dr. Bisanga is always a pleasure of mine and knowing...

www.hairlossexperiences.com

Ian can point any to the original source of the links to see the patient's evolution and from where we made some of the videos. No products are used and no control over the lights or angles as it in essence patient produced and includes their evolution, comments etc month by month.

As you rightly say, some clinics will use poor lighting, angles, reflections, distance, products, no donor photos etc to be less than transparent.

All clinics will have the need of a touch up, to varying degrees, and often how the patient is treated is also important. What I think is relevant to any clinic is the amount of touch ups needed for live updates and see if it is the norm or a small percentage.

Hopefully this thread can keep on track for the patient and wishing you all the best.

 

[Ian888]

Thanks for this Stephen - I appreciate the response, however both the patient journeys you have posted the link for are not independent - one is a doctor from your clinic and one is your patient rep. I can’t find any recent patient reported journeys from Basinga in the patient section of this forum that is entirely independent and shows the month on month patient journey.
I am not picking on your clinic in particular - I am just making a point that all clinics will showcase their best results but I only really trust those patient reported results where there is no conflict of interest.. thanks for your time and info.

 

[Raphael84]

I believe that the thread has taken somewhat of a different direction that was originally intended when the OP began his own personal documented thread in regard to his surgery with his chosen doctor and I of course with the OP the very best.

@Ian888 In regard to Stephens above comment -
"To respect forum etiquette and not cross linking to other forums, then please feel free to PM or contact Ian our rep on here who can sign-post you to the original posts from our patients. It was for this reason I linked on purpose to the videos not to the forum/s in question to respect this."

By all means reach out to me personally via pm or email how your prefer ([email protected]) and it will be my pleasure to connect you with such patient posted results which will allow you to contact each patient personally with any questions or further correspondence that you may wish to have.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Again, out of consideration for the original poster I believe that as a community we should respect the thread topic and his motivation for creating such a thread and show support.

Thanks

 

[TobiasW]

Edited. Waiting on member to confirm surgery details.