Posters that blame the patients for going to bad clinics

[zionaxel]

I think this will turn into a my dads tougher than your dad type of thing.Very sad that in all this that SFSG has in a subtle way under mind the pro bono offer. I hope that you are not comparing this to your French grifters as you call them?

 

[Sofarsogood]

Sparky,

Actually, it is all the same patient in the video I posted.
All of Dr. Umars case videos are all the same patient from start to end.
Re-read his testimonial that I posted above.

He has before pics from before and after the z-plasty procedure performed by a plastic surgeon in the Bay area.
Maybe that's your confusion.

There are three videos of this patient over the course of his extensive repair on YouTube and Dr. Umar's website.

The hairline photo I posted is indeed a different patient.
This was to show the amazing softening effect with the proper use of nape hair on a transplanted hairline.

Yes, many strip clinics don't advise using nape hair because they are unable to put it to use using strip technique. Some have theories about it's longevity. Dr. Umar does his best to evaluate the quality of the nape hair from patient to patient. He does this to determine whether or not he believes the patient will retain his nape hair later in life. But all donor hair has the potential to thin out over the years. Some folks' head hair donor thins out, body and beard hair can thin out as well with age. This is one of the risks of any HT.

Some folks incorrectly predicted that my leg hair grafts wouldn't hold up over time. Well, it's been nearly 6 years and so far so good.

A few select docs can use nape, head, beard, chest, arm, leg, pubic, arm pit hair, etc. when options are limited and every follicle is precious. It's up to the doc and patient to decide where to pull hair from based on family history, age, etc.

Gotta work my day job.
Will return later.

P.S. zionaxel, I have no problem with the Pro Bono offer. Just a problem with the posting tactics of one of the winners. Any clinic offering to help fix people for free, even with the potential for good PR, is fine by me so long as things are on the up and up. I like that we got to vote for the "winner". That was an excellent idea.

 

[Sparky]

I see what your saying, not all of those pics were taken by your Dr.

 

[topccat29]

What exactly is one to do when a false accusation is easily answered with the truth but a forum moderator feels very comfortable to summarily delete several of the posts in that thread. Forum members are suppose to rely on those same forums for honest and straight forward advice. Now you know why it took me over 10 years to find the right clinic and why I have not moved on like many others who are constantly posting about how they have moved on but somehow they still manage to appear when convenient to ask me about why I have not moved on. My posting style has been the same for the last 12 years and nothing has changed.

I am of course speaking of another forum and this is what makes meeting and speaking to people in person and on the phone so important.

 

[zionaxel]

There was 92 post ´s , now its 75 . I agree they monitor it to suit there best interest ´s. Crap forum, stick with this one..

 

[Sparky]

I read everything I see on that forum with a pinch of salt, because so much stuff is deleted, it has no credibility. I also see no credibility in peoples posts when they can't use someones FULL forum name, and shorten it because they think they are being smart, they aren't.

 

[Sofarsogood]

What exactly is one to do when someone gets free work from one clinic and then decides to smear a competing clinic out of spite before his results have even grown out?

))N_)

 

[zionaxel]

I sense a little bitterness here, also who is smearing who?

 

[Sofarsogood]

Not bitter.
I suppose I allowed myself wander down the road of innuendo and sarcasm.
Not good colors for me.
I have no intention of smearing anyone.
As a fellow poster likes to say, just calling it like I see it.

And although we aren't seeing eye to eye on matters of agendas and tactics on these forums, I'm looking forward to celebrating his grown out results.

Sincerely.

 

[zionaxel]

H.t ´s are a touchy subject and we handle it in different ways, personally i would let this subject go. I don ´t believe it was Topcat ´s intention to slander the clinic mentioned. But i do know for a fact that he does feel with a passion some clinic ´s should be hung out to dry.Like we all do, bad hairtransplant ´s need to be stopped ,period.

 

[Sparky]

SFSG, this thread wasn't even about your Dr until you brought him up. Defending someone so aggressivly is what is making people find faults with him.
Constantly posting links to his work, just makes you look like a shill, which I personally don't think you are, but newbies may think that you work for him.

I think with these posts on here and the other forum, you haven't done your Dr any favours at all. A few people have said that after this they would not go with your Dr.

Also, taking away the "Top" from Topcat just makes you look arrogant.

Maybe take a chill pill?

 

[Sofarsogood]

Actually, the thread's author turned this thread in that direction after a long exchange on another forum where his agenda was clearly exposed through his own emails. Much like those French hair grifters.

A chill pill from the guy who's avatar is cocky superhero who's on fire?
Sure. Ok, sparky. Lol.

As for my views, opinions and posting habits, I'll give your advise the consideration I feel it deserves. I don't attack or smear honest, competing clinics with rumor or innuendo. I may be a "cheerleader". I can accept that.

I've had multiple strips since 1992 with two different docs that caused scarring and ridging. And my unnatural looking hairline was fixed in a day using no head hair whatsoever. Yeah, I'm a happy camper and won't sit back and watch while an honest man's practice is smeared without hard evidence. Sorry.

Arrogant? Hmmm. I would assign that trait to someone who chooses a screen name with the prefix "top" (of anything). Or "king", "emperor", "genius", etc. But that's just me.

As for the guys who posted they wouldn't consider my clinic of choice because of my posts, they are "fans" of competing clinics or long time posters who have been around these forums for years, posting thousands of times and have never taken action about their hairloss so I don't think their posts are sincere.

Attack me all you like. I can take it just fine. There is nothing anyone can post here that is as offensive as what I endured on hairlossadvances.

Thanks for looking out though.

 

[Sparky]

Don't be so fucking stupid, it doesn't matter what my avatar is, and fyi, he isn't on fire, and he's not a superhero!

I've had 4 bad strips by the way, with shite results, so you don't need to tell me about that.


Can't be bothered to comment on the rest , as it's going round in circles.

 

[Sofarsogood]

Wow.

Talk about needing a "chill pill."
In response, I will not be swearing at you or insulting you.
We simply will have to agree to disagree.

And for the record, you are a patient/fan of BHR. Same clinic as Mr. Topcat, yes?
Just wanted that to be clearly stated right here and now.

Onward and upward.
Happy to growing to you.

 

[Sparky]

Yes I am a patient of BHR, I also have seen some good repairs from Dr Umar, and have no problem with him.
All the regulars on here know that I went with BHR, this isn't a secret that you have uncovered.
This exact thread wasn't even about Dr Umar until you turned up shouting the odds like a lunatic, I didn't even know you had a problem with Topcat until this thread.

I stand by what I said about my avatar, it's got nothing to do with anything, so why did you bring it up? Just commenting on any random crap you can so that you can provoke people, that's why.

 

[Sofarsogood]

Sparky,

Please relax. I like your avatar. I just thought it was funny that you were telling me to chill while appearing "on fire". I thought he was the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four. Forgive me. It's been a while since I've followed comics.

Then the swearing and insults further humored me so far as the "chill pill.". I'd be careful about throwing labels around like "lunatic" when swearing and insulting people over an avatar. Just sayin'.

My pointing out that you are a patient of BHR was not for the benefit of the regulars but for the casual readers to get where your loyalties lay. IMO, from the pictures in your gallery, your hair looks great and you should be very happy with your repair result.

Grow long and prosper.
:::C

 

[Sparky]

Yeah and like I said your repair looks good too, but I don't go around defending BHR by posting multiple links to work that they have done, I recommend them to UK patients as an alternative to UK clinics, but only if people ask me.

If USA patients that wanted extensive repair asked me for advice on who to go to, Dr Umar would be on the very small list.

 

[Sofarsogood]

Sparky wrote:

Yeah and like I said your repair looks good too, but I don't go around defending BHR by posting multiple links to work that they have done...

If USA patients that wanted extensive repair asked me for advice on who to go to, Dr Umar would be on the very small list.

Very well, Sparky.

I've found that an effective defense against smear merchants is to post results instead of engaging in insults or smearing in return.

I'm not interested in attempting to harm anyone's honest practice.

Results speak for themselves.
If this is misconstrued as "shilling", so be it.
If the mods have an issue with it, I will respect their wishes as I am only a guest at this party.

Again, your result looks great.
Enjoy all that hair.

 

[topccat29]

For anyone €™s information the avatar and the handle mean absolutely nothing. It was the first thing I saw when I was trying to come up with a name €¦ €¦LOL €¦ €¦ €¦. but thanks for addressing me as Mr €¦ €¦LOL €¦ €¦..

Listen when a clinic feels very comfortable coming on to the internet and basically threatening me with posting e-mail correspondence from 5 years ago I find that very bizarre. What exactly does this say about the clinic and how they handle situations? But as I posted immediately, any e-mails could be posted as I have no problem with anything that I have written in the past. Unfortunately the clinic seems to have gotten their facts wrong but I was happy to clear the air and set the record straight for them.

In all honestly I really do not have anything against your clinic. Maybe you don €™t like some of the things I have to say but the forums are open to debate and I am always civil. I do not pick on any one clinic but I would really suggest to you a different approach when dealing with thoughts and ideas that you don €™t agree with on the forums.

 

[Sofarsogood]

Topcat,

At the risk of beating a dead horse...

Emails "from 5 years ago"

This timeframe was proven false by your own emails.

What else is false?

Using the examples of the French grifters and scarredup5 in this thread was false.

Your innuendos all over the forums about my clinic of choice are false.

Spamming every thread posted by my clinic of choice is... unseemly.

If a bowl of pasta has a cockroach crawling in it, does one eat around the area where the bug is or does one throw out the whole bowl?

Sorry Topcat, I choose to throw out the whole bowl regarding your statements about one honest clinic that turned you down for free or discounted work in exchange for you promoting them on the internet. Now you are taking your revenge. Kinda sad.

You won your "contest" at your current clinic of choice in part thanks to me and my vote. Just enjoy your results as they come in. I'm hoping you are happy.

We will just have to agree to disagree on the rest.